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Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 20: Nice - Col de la Couillole, 20/07, 132.8k

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Come on, let's not be disingenuous. Jorgenson didn't do that to get a KOM point, he did it specifically so that Carapaz didn't get one. Maybe as payback for yesterday, maybe to get back at UAE who chased him down but had let Carapaz towards the front, who knows. It was a bit of a petty move, to justify it by saying "it's a race" is deliberately missing the point.
So you're saying its not a race and Carapaz is entitled to winning the points without competition because.... because you have deemed him the worthy winner?

Thats how I think cycling should be, but we see that differently I guess.
 
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Number of racedays before the start of the race for the last winners of Tour de France .

Nibali once more showing he's the apostle of Real Ciclismo
 
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So you're saying its not a race and Carapaz is entitled to winning the points without competition because.... because you have deemed him the worthy winner?

Thats how I think cycling should be, but we see that differently I guess.
Are you deliberately missing the point or...

There's no race between Carapaz and Jorgenson for KoM points because it is mathematically impossible for Jorgenson to win the KoM competition. Therefore it was clearly not done as a fight for the point, but just to spite UAE/Carapaz. Obviously. And fair enough if you think that was a reasonable move, but no need to lie to yourself that it was a move made out of pure racing intention
 
Are you deliberately missing the point or...

There's no race between Carapaz and Jorgenson for KoM points because it is mathematically impossible for Jorgenson to win the KoM competition. Therefore it was clearly not done as a fight for the point, but just to spite UAE/Carapaz. Obviously. And fair enough if you think that was a reasonable move, but no need to lie to yourself that it was a move made out of pure racing intention
Alright, so your point is that when its mathematically impossible to win the jersey, riders are not allowed to sprint for points.

Does that also apply to the green jersey and the people sprinting for points when they cant win it?
Should Coquard be vilified or DQ for winning sprints when hes mathematically out of the green jersey race?
 
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Are you deliberately missing the point or...

There's no race between Carapaz and Jorgenson for KoM points because it is mathematically impossible for Jorgenson to win the KoM competition. Therefore it was clearly not done as a fight for the point, but just to spite UAE/Carapaz. Obviously. And fair enough if you think that was a reasonable move, but no need to lie to yourself that it was a move made out of pure racing intention
Thank God everyone here can read minds. 🙄
 
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You think Tratnik and Geniets are better climbers than Buitrago and Gee?
To add onto that: Bardet, Enric Más, Carapaz, and Kelderman are all WAY better climbers if you base it on their palmarés. How many GT podiums do Gee and Buitrago have? Mtn stage wins? A good result in the Dauphiné and 1 GT fighting for the lower half positions in the Top 10 doesn’t make one a more impressive climbers than a Giro winner and a guy with multiple TdF podiums, 3 Vuelta podiums, plus a podium and GT Top 5 in Kelderman. Plus Soler is no slouch on the climbs when he rides for himself.
 
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Alright, so your point is that when its mathematically impossible to win the jersey, riders are not allowed to sprint for points.

Does that also apply to the green jersey and the people sprinting for points when they cant win it?
Should Coquard be vilified or DQ for winning sprints when hes mathematically out of the green jersey race?
I know that you're semi-baiting but I'll bite...

It's about motivation, at the end of the day. It's not that Jorgenson isn't allowed to sprint for KoM when he's out of the race, but it's about why he would do so. When Coquard sprints for intermediate points, he's doing it for sponsor/bonuses, and to keep a strong position in points classification. In your honest, genuine opinion – why did Jorgenson sprint for the KoM points there?

But also, please be serious. Nobody has said Jorgenson should be DQed, I don't get why you're so worked up about this.