Tour de France Tour de France 2025, Stage 18: Vif - Courchevel Col de La Loze(171.5k)

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Look at the guys still in this main group and tell me he's giving it his all.
Let's see if we get any numbers from the stage later. You can't say a rider has held something back just by looking at how his opponents did.

Vingegaard looked really tired after the stage. If he had had a lot of energy left, he wouldn't have given Pogacar that gap in the end, would he?
 
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Lipo should have stayed with Onley. That is his rival. Not his teammate who tried to get a stage.
Rog was never winning that stage

Lip should ahve stayed with Onley????...no rider ever before been dropped ?? ....His team mate should have helped him on that final climb ...that is what a team does
 
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He lost a lot on the last climb

Lipo is young and should have ridden for his podium and white jersey

It is a big thing and he should not have done this

Overall he lost like 3:20 min on the climb. After the effort he put in and probably over doing it by attacking after not really resting after coming back, I think he did pretty well do limit his losses on a 26,k climb.
 
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I'm gonna semiquote Horner; the result doesn't always reflect the tactics. Visma clearly tried
Until the top of Madeleine, then it turned into bad Contador and Schleck on the Tourmalet (saved by freaking Ben O'Connor of all people).
 
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Rog was never winning that stage

Lip should ahve stayed with Onley????...no rider ever before been dropped ?? ....His team mate should have helped him on that final climb ...that is what a team does
Maybe Lipo should have helped Rog in the valley.
I general VLAB rode like knobheads, as they do, and thwarted RBH's plan. But afterwards nobody could have guessed that the favorites' group would ride a granny's tempo in the valley. I guess RBH were pretty unlucky at the end of the day. Also, big bravo for Onley's teammates. They saved him there.
 
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Overall he lost like 3:20 min on the climb. After the effort he put in and probably over doing it by attacking after not really resting after coming back, I think he did pretty well do limit his losses on a 26,k climb.
He lost almost his whole advantage on Onley and could pay for it tomorrow.

It is little to be happy about that he showed "courage" and "limited losses", when it was completely unnecessary.

He will have to hope Onley dug really deep today or he could be in trouble tomorrow.
 
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He lost almost his whole advantage on Onley and could pay for it tomorrow.

It is little to be happy about that he showed "courage" and "limited losses", when it was completely unnecessary.

He will have to hope Onley dug really deep today or he could be in trouble tomorrow.

True. I agree with you that it was a pretty stupid move. Just saying that it wasn't a bad ride if you ignore the consequences just from a performance perspective.