Tour de Suisse 2024, June 9 - 16

[TourOfSardinia]

DEL TORO Isaac

UAE Team Emirates

3:03

took it easy ...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Not surprising result at all, the ITT was about who's the strongest climber today. Almeida and Yates basically equal on the climb (Almeida a bit faster on the flat section and in the finale). While they didn't crush the field today it's worth noting that their GC advantage is big and indicates very consistent and strong performances every day. Congrats to them on this race. Teddy should sleep well before the Tour, he has a decent team!

 

[Tricycle Rider]

UAE at the Tour looks very strong. Imagine if Ayuso had not crashed? but they come prepare after last year's results, But now Visma looks questionable. Oh well let's hope for the best Tour.

Yes, last year it was all Visma, this year it's UAE. I'm not bored with UAE yet, but I can understand if others are.

 

[Froome]

Kuss will be irrelevant until week 3 (he looks awful) so only Matteo is gonna help Vingegaard but I agree the strongest rider will win.

That's when he will need him right? The route is super backloaded. The first 2 weeks will be about get out of trouble.

He was a bit sick on Dauphine, but he will be fine.

 

[Peyroteo94]

That's when he will need him right? The route is super backloaded. The first 2 weeks will be about get out of trouble.

He was a bit sick on Dauphine, but he will be fine.

Stage 4 and stage 11 are very dangerous where Pogi can gain minutes, specially stage 11

 

[awavey]

Demi Vollering's dog might be less photogenic, but I bet is a lot easier to keep, than Adam Yates's.

I think Flo is far more photogenic, Zoe is just a ball of fluff

 

[Unchained]

Good montage!!

 

[Froome]

Stage 4 and stage 11 are very dangerous where Pogi can gain minutes, specially stage 11

I don't think stage are 4 hard enough to make big differences. Sestrieres, montgenevre and Galiber are not that steep.

Probably stage 11... yeah is a bit hard, with some steep climbs in the end.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I don't think stage are 4 hard enough to make big differences. Sestrieres, montgenevre and Galiber are not that steep.

Probably stage 11... yeah is a bit hard, with some steep climbs in the end.

Keep in mind stages 14 and 15 (but it's the end of week two actually so Kuss should be stronger according to you). As for stage 4: UAE will make carnage on the Galibier climb: not saying differences will be huge but I wouldn't be surprised if Pog is able to gain 40-60 seconds over his closest rivals there.

 

[Froome]

Keep in mind stages 14 and 15 (but it's the end of week two actually so Kuss should be stronger according to you). As for stage 4: UAE will make carnage out of Galibier climb: not saying differences will be huge but I wouldn't be surprised if Pog is able to gain 40-60 seconds over his closest rivals there.

I'm like counting Pla d adet and Plateau de beille "in the last week" since they are in the last 8 days of racing.

 

[jmdirt]

Riccitello doing a great MTT

This kids is building under the radar...well 5th here might make him visible on the radar.

”I’ve dreamed about racing with the top guys like this so the last few days have been really cool. It gives me a lot of motivation and now I’m looking forward to the rest of the season.” --Matthew Riccitello

 

[Peyroteo94]

I don't think stage are 4 hard enough to make big differences. Sestrieres, montgenevre and Galiber are not that steep.

Probably stage 11... yeah is a bit hard, with some steep climbs in the end.

I agree Stage 4 is not hard enough but it is the first mountain stage (first real test) after a probably tough weekend and a super long flat stage (more than 5 hours on the saddle) so this will be relevant before stage 4 and Galibier is definetly enough to create big gaps (more than a minute). Can't see Hindley, Vlasov, Matteo, all top domestiques still with their leaders when Yates goes to work.

 

[Sciatic]

No way

There is a /s or missing from RR’s comment

 

[noob]

I think Flo is far more photogenic, Zoe is just a ball of fluff

Is there a pet thread?

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Is there a pet thread?

If there isn't there should be, while it's been mentioned I haven't seen Ayuso's dog yet.

PS -I think it was a few years ago CN did an article on "The Dogs of le Tour", it was great!

 

[Rou]

Now that Suisse is over we can compare it with Dauphine. In my opinion this year (unlike previous years) Suisse was the higher level race. Almeida and Yates would have smashed Rogla and Jorgenson. In the top 10 of Suisse we got 10 lightweight climbers and not a Canadian rouleur and a Spanish flat domestique like in the Dauphine.
What do you guys think?

 

[Froome]

Now that Suisse is over we can compare it with Dauphine. In my opinion this year (unlike previous years) Suisse was the higher level race. Almeida and Yates would have smashed Rogla and Jorgenson. In the top 10 of Suisse we got 10 lightweight climbers and not a Canadian rouleur and a Spanish flat domestique like in the Dauphine.
What do you guys think?

They were at the same level. Looking at the gaps is always a good metric.

 

[Rou]

They were at the same level. Looking at the gaps is always a good metric.

Yes, exactly looking at the gaps we get this: After 3 brutal summits in Dauphine at the end Lazkano finished 9th (2:54 behind Roglic). Freaking Derek Gee was only 36 secs back in third place. In Suisse the third guy Skjelmose finished 3:02 down on Yates. And the climbs in Suisse were easier as well.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Now that Suisse is over we can compare it with Dauphine. In my opinion this year (unlike previous years) Suisse was the higher level race. Almeida and Yates would have smashed Rogla and Jorgenson. In the top 10 of Suisse we got 10 lightweight climbers and not a Canadian rouleur and a Spanish flat domestique like in the Dauphine.
What do you guys think?

Agree. For me Almeida and Yates showed a really good level, something I didn't see in Roglic. In fact I am almost sure if Yates and Almeida were in the Dauphiné, Roglic would not have won it.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

They were at the same level. Looking at the gaps is always a good metric.

But not when Teddy beats farmers by 10 minutes, right?

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Agree. For me Almeida and Yates showed a really good level, something I didn't see in Roglic. In fact I am almost sure if Yates and Almeida were in the Dauphiné, Roglic would not have won it.

Of course, I’d they’d been in the Dauphine, they might have crashed like Rog and Remco.

 

[Valv.Piti]

They were at the same level. Looking at the gaps is always a good metric.

No it is not, lmao??? XD

Suisse climbing level was obviousy higher, even my deaf, blind and numb grandma can tell you that.

 

[Sciatic]

I agree Stage 4 is not hard enough but it is the first mountain stage (first real test) after a probably tough weekend and a super long flat stage (more than 5 hours on the saddle) so this will be relevant before stage 4 and Galibier is definetly enough to create big gaps (more than a minute). Can't see Hindley, Vlasov, Matteo, all top domestiques still with their leaders when Yates goes to work.

Well, if you can’t see them then their Zubeldia race strategy might be working!

It’s hard to use the pre-Pog/Ving era of racing as much of a guide because they have changed the race landscape. But I would still see Stage 4 as less likely for that type of Yates-driven explosion because it’s early and everyone is still fresh, so there are will be a bigger group of leaders and super-doms still together in front. It’s true that it was just in Stage 6 of last years Tour that Pogacar & Vingegaard put the hurt on everyone, but that stage had a final MTF (Cambasque, after Tourmelet) where they gapped everyone. I think it’s less likely for that to happen in Stage 4 this Tour.

 

[noob]

Of course, I’d they’d been in the Dauphine, they might have crashed like Rog and Remco.

I am almost certain you can't find any GC rider with a smaller crash record than Almeida! Possibly in the whole history of cycling lol.

 

[Sciatic]

Now that Suisse is over we can compare it with Dauphine. In my opinion this year (unlike previous years) Suisse was the higher level race. Almeida and Yates would have smashed Rogla and Jorgenson. In the top 10 of Suisse we got 10 lightweight climbers and not a Canadian rouleur and a Spanish flat domestique like in the Dauphine.
What do you guys think?

I think we’ll get to see all we need to know in just 2 weeks, so no need to struggle over apples and oranges comparisons.