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Fun fact, which is 3 days too late, but Olav Kooij is the third youngest rider ever to reach 25 victories.
Is there a thread about him already?
Is there a thread about him already?
Teams & Riders - The Cheetah of Numansdorp - Olav Kooij thread
So I think it's time to get this man a thread, seeing that De Lie and even someone like Foss already have one... Today a first WT victory in Poland, 9th of the season... he's ready for some hype. Looks more well rounded than Groenewegen, time will tell if he can get the same top speed... We'll...
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If English did not have words derived from French, many in the last 300 years, we would all speak American.
Main one at the moment is police. As an example the police bill for 8 days Tour of Britain is £600K the police bill for 3 week La Vuelta is free.
something that annoys me, is when people say (more than write I think) 'Le' tour or 'La' Vuelta, when speaking English. I don't know why. I think its something people do when they try to sound like they know more than they do.
The English have never come up with anything - everything they have they stole. And I say that as an Englishman
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People on here who bleat on about the parcours/course/route/way/navigation have no idea how many factors limit the choice. Perhaps they should try organising a bike race in the UK!
The organisers of the ToB (Sweetspot if you're interested) have done wonders to produce a week-long stage race every year for a couple of decades in the face of this. Sadly I strongly suspect this edition will be the last. Let's hope it goes out with a bang at Caerphilly which is sure to be an exciting and scenic finale
The wider point is that the British authorities have never been supportive of bicycle racing - going back to the origins of the sport in the 19th century. Hence the historical popularity of time trialling in the UK, because it was a form of racing which could be done 'under the radar'.
People on here who bleat on about the parcours/course/route/way/navigation have no idea how many factors limit the choice. Perhaps they should try organising a bike race in the UK!
The organisers of the ToB (Sweetspot if you're interested) have done wonders to produce a week-long stage race every year for a couple of decades in the face of this. Sadly I strongly suspect this edition will be the last. Let's hope it goes out with a bang at Caerphilly which is sure to be an exciting and scenic finale
Many races are "Tour [something]". Le Tour is a distinct shorthand. I don't write Il Giro d'Italia, but for short I'll write Il Giro.
It's of course also affected by how those races communicate. Both hashtags and official accounts often include "Le" etc.
If so, why then: "I think its something people do when they try to sound like they know more than they do."
Linguistic purism in English - Wikipedia
In the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, when there was a lot of debate in the Ashkenazi community as to whether Yiddish was a language or simply a dialect, a corruption of the 'correct' German, many educated Ashkenazic Jews set to work purging the language of many of its external elements. The problem with that was that in the process they robbed formal Yiddish of much of its character, its poetic and humorous content. You see, in Yiddish there are four main elements to the wordstock, those being Germanic (the main underlying core of the language), Loshn-koydesh (Hebrew and Aramaic loanwords used from liturgical texts and analyses), Loez (words from a former Jewish language spoken in France during early diaspora times and based on Latin and early French) and contemporary Slavic languages (borrowings from Polish, Russian, Czech, Ukrainian and other languages of the majorities in the Pale of Settlement), and the choice of words from one of these elements - also with their differing stress rules - could have significant semantic meaning or change implications due to prestige or value of the language from which the element was derived.
At the Czernowitz Conference where the Yiddish language question was intended to be answered, the main point of contention in defence of its status as a language was, in fact, English; English likewise has a clear Germanic base, but has linguistically absorbed external matter to create a fusion language, with a huge wordstock and constructs taken from Greek, Latin and subsequently French, as well as a number of semi-hidden loanwords in the form of the words borrowed from Norse, which are from a different branch of the Germanic languages so often look like they may be native but are not the original English word. There was even some debate at one point as to whether English had moved across from being a Germanic language to being a Romance language due to the high lexical influence of Latin and Latin-derived languages, but that's pretty uniformly rejected.
This means that while English grammar has simplified greatly, the vocabulary is enormous and a lot more specific than a lot of similar languages. Take, for example, the words "guesthouse", "hostel" and "hotel" - these all have restricted meanings and refer to different types of building that travellers can stay in. But they're all the same word - the first is the original Germanic word (see German Gasthaus), the second is borrowed from Latin, and the third is borrowed from French, being the exact same word as the Latin, but after French pronunciation dropped the 's'. All of these words originally came from the same meaning but in time, English has restricted their meanings to separate types of establishment, clearly defined from one another. Or how the words "knight" and "cavalier" coexist, one being a Germanic native word (see German Knecht) and the other being a Latin loanword.
Arguably the police bill for the vuelta is not free, its costing someone for their time & materials, its simply a cost thats not directly passed on to the race organisers. Whether the average Spanish tax payer appreciates that is another matter.
In the UK it was decided many many years ago the true costs of policing events was being hidden by the police simply doing whatever was asked for them and passing the literal increasing bill onto the public.
So now those costs are passed onto the event organisers, since theyve created the thing that needs police involvement, and by the fact any road closures must involve the police and actually the councils have to approve it and charge for that process as well, those costs must be borne by the organisers.
It's not too dissimilar as to how UK football clubs must now contribute to the policing of football matches, and must pay the costs for policing within the ground, which is why lots of clubs resort to private contractors stewarding so they can minimise police costs, and you may or may not have noticed a similar increase of stewards around the Tour of Britain.
But let's present the 600k bill to the British public and see if they're happy to pay to police a cycle race shall we ? 😀
I'm not sure it's necessarily the last edition, I think the Women's Tour is in a much more perilous position than the ToB,
And the costs might be eye watering, they charge roughly about 250k to host a stage,so two stages pay for the police bill.
But I think this is the format for the race for the foreseeable, lots of classic city centre/seaside resort sprints, one uphill stage to decide GC, unless a big money sponsor can be found.
She also has a sister called Chiara, but she isn't a cyclist.
What is this competent breakaway!
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1 16 TURNER Ben 0:18 2 54 CHRISTENSEN Ryan 0:42 3 111 DONOVAN Mark 0:03 4 125 STOCKMAN Abram 0:22 5 143 JOHNSTON Liam 4:48 - P
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