Tour of Slovenia 2021, June 9 - June 13

[Mayomaniac]

Sobrero looked strong today. That said, you kinda expect a guy who finished top10 in flat TTs while being only 63kg heavy (and 177cm tal) to be a decent climber. I'm looking forward to see him ride for himself in shorter stage races that feature an ITT.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

Pog doing a training ride by himself, not gonna get much benefit from this race. Nobody to gauge himself with leading to the Tour.

But have you seen how happy he was after he won? Mentally this means A LOT to him

 

[jaylew]

I'm sure he wanted to show some love to the hometown fans but it really would have been more interesting if he'd have gone to one of the other prep races. This field is just not good outside of UAE and this result feels as pre-ordained as one of the post-Tour criteriums.

 

[shalgo]

German commentary talking up the competition... and calling Pogacar Poggiakar.

They’re just already anticipating his attack on the Poggio in MSR next year.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

I'm sure he wanted to show some love to the hometown fans but it really would have been more interesting if he'd have gone to one of the other prep races. This field is just not good outside of UAE and this result feels as pre-ordained as one of the post-Tour criteriums.

So many unknowns for the Tour.

We have no idea where Pogacar is, because this race has no real competition for him.
We have no idea where Roglic is, because stage 1 will be his first start in over 2 months.
We have no idea if Alaphilippe has lost some of his punch, because he has prepared for riding GC.
We have no idea who Ineos is riding for or if any of them can beat the Slovenians.

 

[Lequack]

Only 79 of 136 finished riders were inside time limit lol. The UCI decided to extend the time limit so that the riders don't get booted. I don't even know what the guys behind were doing, it's not like this was a multiple mountain alpine stage or something.

 

[SafeBet]

Only 79 of 136 finished riders were inside time limit lol. The UCI decided to extend the time limit so that the riders don't get booted. I don't even know what the guys behind were doing, it's not like this was a multiple mountain alpine stage or something.

They were doing what a few years ago at the Vuelta they were told it was ok to do.

 

[Bolder]

So many unknowns for the Tour.

We have no idea where Pogacar is, because this race has no real competition for him.

Just watched the last 10k or so. He did seem really happy to win, even if it wasn't all that hard for him. And Mohoric was second, given Bahrain's form, of course he was second...

But I think there's no real reason for him to go too deep right now. He'll have done the hard miles in training already.

 

[roundabout]

You get one race with much stricter time limits than the current norm of around 15% for a stage like today.

And they don't get enforced anyway,

Thanks, Obama Pogacar.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Oh man, they should already increase the time limit for stage 4 as Tadej will crush the road to Sveta Gora to pieces. Apparently his compatriots are asking him to take it easy so that they could finish the race.

 

[Escarabajo]

They are missing Padun in this race!!

 

[Escarabajo]

I just watched the last climb. LOL. The riders didn't even try. Pogacar was just looking around like what is going on. He just told his teammate to keep rolling. This is just a training ride for him. That's it.

 

[solo80k]

They are missing Padun in this race!!

We're missing any competition for UAE. But Pog will at least have stronger helpers this year.

 

[Lequack]

Lanterne Rouge podcast

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pEI6usLOuY

 

[Gregor_Slovenia]

You can check his Strava file and you see quickly that he is in bombastic shape. 15 minutes over 1800 vam in average, that is more than 6,8 w/kg, because there was some rain, wind, the road surface very bad. He would destroy any field existing. Ok, maybe Roglič could do sth. Really happy for Mohorič, he deserves podiums and wins. Hopefully he does win stage in Tour in July. Or already in June, why not..

 

[Krzysztof_O]

You can check his Strava file and you see quickly that he is in bombastic shape. 15 minutes over 1800 vam in average, that is more than 6,8 w/kg, because there was some rain, wind, the road surface very bad. He would destroy any field existing. Ok, maybe Roglič could do sth. Really happy for Mohorič, he deserves podiums and wins. Hopefully he does win stage in Tour in July. Or already in June, why not..

Obviously 1800+ VAM is a world-class level but it lasted just 12 minutes: one can go above AnT for such a short effort (though I doubt Pogacar went much into the red knowing that it's not the end of the stage). His climbing speed there was a bit below Peyresourde level (and 2x shorter effort). Not sure how you incorporated rain and surface quality into the equation as well: without including them he was at 6.5 w/kg but 6.8 w/kg is monstrous (and would be even a bit better than his second half of Peyresourde).

 

[KZD]

You can check his Strava file and you see quickly that he is in bombastic shape. 15 minutes over 1800 vam in average, that is more than 6,8 w/kg, because there was some rain, wind, the road surface very bad. He would destroy any field existing. Ok, maybe Roglič could do sth. Really happy for Mohorič, he deserves podiums and wins. Hopefully he does win stage in Tour in July. Or already in June, why not..

I can see him (or Roglic) winning in Mur de Bretagne although Alaphilippe is the top favourite there. More important than that could actually be the seconds gained on other GC contenders.

 

[Red Rick]

Obviously 1800+ VAM is a world-class level but it lasted just 12 minutes: one can go above AnT for such a short effort (though I doubt Pogacar went much into the red knowing that it's not the end of the stage). His climbing speed there was a bit below Peyresourde level (and 2x shorter effort). Not sure how you incorporated rain and surface quality into the equation as well: without including them he was at 6.5 w/kg but 6.8 w/kg is monstrous (and would be even a bit better than his second half of Peyresourde).

It's also 1000m lower than the Peyresourde.

No doubt it's good numbers from Pogi. But it's a pretty lol competition, it's all just vibes and we'll see during the Tour.

Unless he wants to channel 2017 Croatia Nibali and win the race on intermediate sprints.

 

[limak_]

You can check his Strava file and you see quickly that he is in bombastic shape. 15 minutes over 1800 vam in average, that is more than 6,8 w/kg, because there was some rain, wind, the road surface very bad. He would destroy any field existing. Ok, maybe Roglič could do sth. Really happy for Mohorič, he deserves podiums and wins. Hopefully he does win stage in Tour in July. Or already in June, why not..

Strava altitude data is not credible very often, so the VAM values should be also used very carefully. I'm no saying it's totally useless, but the estimation could be just a little less accurate beacause of that.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Strava altitude data is not credible very often, so the VAM values should be also used very carefully. I'm no saying it's totally useless, but the estimation could be just a little less accurate beacause of that.

Yup, Pogacar's Peyresourde ride on Strava had a VAM below 1800 but it was almost 1850 actually.

 

[Lequack]

Stage 3 start

 

[limak_]

Stage 3 start

The first photo brings kinda late 90s, early 2000s impression.
And in the second one, probably the weirdest sunglasses I've seen in a while.

 

[sir fly]

Depleted interest for today's atomic stage here.

 

[MrTea1976]

I'm listening in on a Dept. for Transport meeting with the DVSA in the UK, so I have it on without volume. Nice scenery. It has the advantage of being on before the other two races!

 

[SafeBet]

Javi Romo on the attack.