He was only 15 seconds behind Chaves on the MTF in l'Avenir though, but I agree that he's not a climber.He's more like a Johan Vansummeren type. Like most Norwegians he has too much muscle mass to be a real climber. I don't know if that's caused by genetics or too much xc-skiing in the offseason...theyoungest said:U23 racing is strange that way. Matthews was 7th in the Tour de l'Avenir last year, I wouldn't call him a climber. But Laengen certainly seems to be fairly allround, I'm a bit surprised that he didn't get a contract at a slightly better team.