Transfers and Rumours 2012 > 2013

[gustienordic]

This transfer season is becoming utterly ridiculous. Both Moreno and Navarro to Cofidis? Seriously!?!?

 

[janraaskalt]

This transfer season is becoming utterly ridiculous. Both Moreno and Navarro to Cofidis? Seriously!?!?

No, just a ****-up by 1 website. Look at it: 2 Dani's, they did not publish an "article" about Navarro (which has been confirmed by several parties), but did publish one about Moreno, where his name appears only once.

 

[AntonioRossi]

very surprising to see Liquigas letting Duggan go. But great signing for spidertech nonetheless

 

[The Hitch]

This transfer season is becoming utterly ridiculous. Both Moreno and Navarro to Cofidis? Seriously!?!?

they will try to continue winning Vuelta kom every year.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

This transfer season is becoming utterly ridiculous. Both Moreno and Navarro to Cofidis? Seriously!?!?

Moreno.. Moreno who?

 

[Sophistic]

woah, this whole Fuglsang gets the leadership role at the tour - thing is a joke, right?if not, his agent has to be a genius.

 

[Dutchsmurf]

U forget the "medium bit names" who can make a top 10 or 15 in GTs (which gives point) or get top 5 or something in other WT races. Its pretty clear that both Fuglsang and Kreuziger are being left out for that reason (Bruynell even admitted that)

But how likely are Fuglsang or Kreuziger to score points anyway, even if they rode? Even if they did, it wouldn't be many points at all. And besides, as team manager you should be aware of who signed for you for next year and who hasn't. It doesn't matter if you know which team they are on next year as long as you know it isn't yours. In my opinion Riis isn't announcing any medium/big names, because he didn't sign any. Whoever he has signed might have an outside shot at some points, but nothing more than that. Now he might pull a Cancellara out of his hat, but I doubt it.

 

[Fidolix]

But how likely are Fuglsang or Kreuziger to score points anyway, even if they rode? Even if they did, it wouldn't be many points at all. And besides, as team manager you should be aware of who signed for you for next year and who hasn't. It doesn't matter if you know which team they are on next year as long as you know it isn't yours. In my opinion Riis isn't announcing any medium/big names, because he didn't sign any. Whoever he has signed might have an outside shot at some points, but nothing more than that. Now he might pull a Cancellara out of his hat, but I doubt it.

It don´t matter how many points or lack of it they could earn, the point is, they are left out of all WT races because of it, either you like it or not.
And Riis said he had signed contracts but will not announce any because of the same reason, -the possibility they will be banned by their teams, just like Fuglsang and Vanmarcke been, and ruin rest of their season just because of it.

And you can´t change the fact either both DS have giving this reason to the public media to why they can´t race more WT races rest of the season.

Infact it´s very easy to understand, and logic.

 

[Cimber]

But how likely are Fuglsang or Kreuziger to score points anyway, even if they rode? Even if they did, it wouldn't be many points at all.

They would both be contenders for a top 10 (though the route doesnt favor them particularly) and that gives a decent amount of points. But its not only the Vuelta. Its all WT races. Fuglsang has been told that he wont get any WT the rest of the season (thats why he also got left out of Tour of Polans). And in those smaller WT races guys like Fuglsang, Kreuziger and other could have scored a nice amount of points

And besides, as team manager you should be aware of who signed for you for next year and who hasn't. It doesn't matter if you know which team they are on next year as long as you know it isn't yours.

I have been thinking about that and you do have a point. But in some cases it can matter what team the rider is going to. It could be a team u would fight for a protour spot with (AG2R could have pulled that card - but respect to them for no). For teams like RSNT and Astana who see SBTB as a GT rival, it would help them if a) the team didnt get enough points and was relegated or b) since the rider who is going from u to them wont earn more points they are forced to buy overpriced riders with points, overall weaking the team regarding support for Contador (in this case). [/QUOTE]

In my opinion Riis isn't announcing any medium/big names, because he didn't sign any. Whoever he has signed might have an outside shot at some points, but nothing more than that. Now he might pull a Cancellara out of his hat, but I doubt it.

I do think he has signed a handful of strong medium name riders for esp stages races(strong rumours about Kreuziger and Arroyo) but also for the classics. A guy like Kreuziger could have earned a decent amount of points in the 1 week WT races imo.

I dont think he will sign any huge names though (if any it would be a classic rider imo). The team is going to be build around Contador. Guys like Roche and Kreuziger (if he joins) will be there to help Bertie in the Tour but will be able to ride their own chance in other races.

 

[The Hitch]

Moreno.. Moreno who?

Daniel Moreno.

 

[roundabout]

It don´t matter how many points or lack of it they could earn, the point is, they are left out of all WT races because of it, either you like it or not.
And Riis said he had signed contracts but will not announce any because of the same reason, -the possibility they will be banned by their teams, just like Fuglsang and Vanmarcke been, and ruin rest of their season just because of it.

And you can´t change the fact either both DS have giving this reason to the public media to why they can´t race more WT races rest of the season.

Infact it´s very easy to understand, and logic.

Kreuziger won't ride any WT races this year. This is already known by everyone, so why not announce him or at least not use it as an excuse not to announce him.

 

[Cimber]

Kreuziger won't ride any WT races this year. This is already known by everyone, so why not announce him or at least not use it as an excuse not to announce him.

Wasnt it only the Vuelta so far or did he get told the same as Fuglsang?

Anyways, with regards to Kreuziger I cant help to think that there might have been an oral agreement but Tinkoffs comment ****ed him off cos that comment effectively ruined his autumn schedule and that made him reconsider...

Or maybe its just about utilizing media awareness. Migth be perfect to announce some stuff at the the Vuelta rest days or at the Worlds (IIrc Riis has always been fond of the worlds for that stuff).

 

[greenedge]

Would be dumb. Team will also ride for Sagan. And letting Moser his first GT be the tour is also not smart. Or is he riding the vuelta this year? Would be too early if that's the case.

I think the team would have meant the big riders at that team- not who would specifically ride each GT. Moser is very talented, i could easily envisage him doing what Pinot did this year.
@Roundabout: I hate to pick you up on a technicality but he will be riding the WC ( of course that is not team sanctioned ) but still.

 

[el chava]

Christophe Le Mevel -> Cofidis

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-transfert-le-mevel-signe-a-son-tour-chez-cofidis-26896.html

Adding to a pretty good roster for stage races with Coppel, Navarro and also Taaramae of course. Increased budget for next year?

 

[Gloin22]

Christophe Le Mevel -> Cofidis

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-transfert-le-mevel-signe-a-son-tour-chez-cofidis-26896.html

Adding to a pretty good roster for stage races with Coppel, Navarro and also Taaramae of course. Increased budget for next year?

Add to that Daniel Moreno and that's a very good team for a GC.

Well done to Cofidis.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Daniel Moreno.

Really? How did I miss that? That's an amazing signing for Cofidis!

 

[janraaskalt]

Together with Javi Moreno their team has a strong Spanish link.

 

[el chava]

Really? How did I miss that? That's an amazing signing for Cofidis!

I believe that was a error by the website (don't remember which one). Daniel Navarro signed, not Daniel Moreno. Still good signings for Cofidis.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I believe that was a error by the website (don't remember which one). Daniel Navarro signed, not Daniel Moreno. Still good signings for Cofidis.

Oh ok, that makes a hell of a lot more sense.

 

[Strathlubnaig]

very surprising to see Liquigas letting Duggan go. But great signing for spidertech nonetheless

Yes, a good signing for Spidertech right enough, it bodes well for Bauers ambitions to get a world tour licence in the next few years, the extended sponsor deal probably helped Duggan's decision.

 

[theyoungest]

Yes, a good signing for Spidertech right enough, it bodes well for Bauers ambitions to get a world tour licence in the next few years, the extended sponsor deal probably helped Duggan's decision.

I don't think having Timmy Duggan will help them get a WT license. But he's a good rider for the American circuit of course.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Is Duggan a secret super-domestique?

Because he's never really done anything of note riding for himself, and I certainly don't see him in the same bracket as Szmyd or even Agnoli, but evidently some people seem to see him as a level above squad filler (in a WT context).

 

[metaCYCLE]

Waterloo Sunrise you're being a bit too harsh on him. he is the American road champ after all...

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

That's the only thing he's ever done, and I am happy to admit I have never heard of anyone who finished in the top 9 of that race, other than him.

 

[metaCYCLE]

i agree that he isn't part of the cycling superstardom. still he won a national title and for a north american team that's a great asset. let's not forget that the guy is climbing down a division.