Transfers and Rumours 2013 > 2014

[CycloAndy]

Yates brothers confirmed to GreenEdge

And it seems there is a new god's gift to cycling:

Adam Yates:
"It's a good setup [at GreenEdge]," Adam said. "And if I went to Sky then I'd end up working on the front like a slave, and I'm not a big fan of that!"

I expect him to be captain of the TdF squad, Giro squad or whatever other race he please to enrich with his presence.

I wouldn't interpret his words like that. Just doesn't like Sky's style of riding. He'll be a fans favourite on these boards with those words. He's probably not done his chances of going to Sky later in his career any favours though.

What he doesn't realise is that Sky never wanted him anyway.
"It was after Avenir that we started getting contacted. We had offers from FDJ and Lampre, and Sky wanted Simon, but GreenEdge is the best place to go."

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

I wouldn't interpret his words like that. Just doesn't like Sky's style of riding. He'll be a fans favourite on these boards with those words. He's probably not done his chances of going to Sky later in his career any favours though.

What he doesn't realise is that Sky never wanted him anyway.
"It was after Avenir that we started getting contacted. We had offers from FDJ and Lampre, and Sky wanted Simon, but GreenEdge is the best place to go."

I think he did realise that, given the quote you used is from him.

It's what makes the later quote about slaving look bitter and pathetic.

Clearly Greenedge need to get him on a media relations course before they let him out in public again, because this interview just makes him look petty and a candidate for a JTL slump the way he seems so excited about the trappings of going professional.

 

[Der Effe]

Should've gone to FDJ, Greenedge is a joke.

 

[MatParker117]

I wouldn't interpret his words like that. Just doesn't like Sky's style of riding. He'll be a fans favourite on these boards with those words. He's probably not done his chances of going to Sky later in his career any favours though.

What he doesn't realise is that Sky never wanted him anyway.
"It was after Avenir that we started getting contacted. We had offers from FDJ and Lampre, and Sky wanted Simon, but GreenEdge is the best place to go."

He'll probably end up riding on the front for Goss, Matthews etc a fair bit anyway.

 

[greenedge]

Only problem is without some major signings Drapac are not looking good at all. They're even out of the top three in the NRS this year. Huon-Genesis are the team that should be stepping up.

The squad is strong/ heaps of riders have potential. This should set them up to be able to be in breakaways at races like TDU/ TOC and possibly winning races such as Langkawi.
If i was them i would add Davison (focusing on track but smashed the NRS last year), Will Walker (very talented/ had troubles) and Phelan (good climber and good on the flats too) as their 3 remaining riders (from their team)- invalid if they get others.

Earle is moving to Sky so that might weaken Genesis.

 

[theyoungest]

Should've gone to FDJ, Greenedge is a joke.

FDJ can only dream of winning the TTT in the Tour.

 

[greenedge]

Should've gone to FDJ, Greenedge is a joke.

Yeah a stint in the yellow jersey at the TDF is a joke/ two stage wins/ two Vuelta wins. Other than that how?

FDJ have enough young climbers already- Ellissonde, Pinot, Geniez...

 

[Der Effe]

I think he did realise that, given the quote you used is from him.

It's what makes the later quote about slaving look bitter and pathetic.

Clearly Greenedge need to get him on a media relations course before they let him out in public again, because this interview just makes him look petty and a candidate for a JTL slump the way he seems so excited about the trappings of going professional.

Yeah a stint in the yellow jersey at the TDF is a joke/ two stage wins/ two Vuelta wins. Other than that how?

FDJ have enough young climbers already- Ellissonde, Pinot, Geniez...

What rider is developing at GreenEdge? Apart from useless TTT's and riders like Gerrans and Albasini, who were already class, I can't see anyone developing. Matthews won 2 stages in the Vuelta, but the sprinters field was worse than at the last bike race at the kindergarten in front of my house.

 

[theyoungest]

What rider is developing at GreenEdge? Apart from useless TTT's and riders like Gerrans and Albasini, who were already class, I can't see anyone developing. Matthews won 2 stages in the Vuelta, but the sprinters field was worse than at the last bike race at the kindergarten in front of my house.

The team has existed for less than 2 years, maybe a bit early to judge?

Cam Meyer has an admittedly slow, but steady progression. Simon Clarke got top-10 at the Worlds. Pieter Weening seems to thrive in that team. Gerrans may already have been good, he didn't win Milan-San Remo before, did he?

They do make mistakes now and then, like not bringing Bling Matthews to the TDU when he was clearly in much better form than Goss, but other than that... seems to be a pretty good team. Speaking of Goss, they need to get rid of him.

 

[CycloAndy]

Earle is moving to Sky so that might weaken Genesis.

My knowledge of the Australian cycling scene is shaky. How good is Earle and what kind of rider is he? Reckon he'll be good enough to make it into any of Sky's GT squads?

 

[Der Effe]

The team has existed for less than 2 years, maybe a bit early to judge?

Cam Meyer has an admittedly slow, but steady progression. Simon Clarke got top-10 at the Worlds. Pieter Weening seems to thrive in that team. Gerrans may already have been good, he didn't win Milan-San Remo before, did he?

They do make mistakes now and then, like not bringing Bling Matthews to the TDU when he was clearly in much better form than Goss, but other than that... seems to be a pretty good team. Speaking of Goss, they need to get rid of him.

Maybe so, but their team consists of quite a few very talented riders who I at least expected to develop more than they did so far. Not that they aren't progressing at all, or they never will become the riders some of them were destined to me it seems they're not getting everything out of them.

Cameron Meyer yes, but nothing out of the ordinary. A top-10 at the World is nice, but nothing more than that. Weening is about their only climber so it's obvious he get more chances than at Rabobank, I am sure at another team he would have reached the same results. Gerrans didn't win Milan-San Remo before but that was just because he wheelsucked Cancellara, you hopefully don't think he won because he chose for GreenEdge? You could say the same thing about Weening the other way around, he won 2 GT stages before joining them. Makes about as much sense.

Goss, another rider they managed to make terrible.

 

[theyoungest]

Maybe so, but their team consists of quite a few very talented riders who I at least expected to develop more than they did so far. Not that they aren't progressing at all, or they never will become the riders some of them were destined to me it seems they're not getting everything out of them.

Cameron Meyer yes, but nothing out of the ordinary. A top-10 at the World is nice, but nothing more than that. Weening is about their only climber so it's obvious he get more chances than at Rabobank, I am sure at another team he would have reached the same results. Gerrans didn't win Milan-San Remo before but that was just because he wheelsucked Cancellara, you hopefully don't think he won because he chose for GreenEdge? You could say the same thing about Weening the other way around, he won 2 GT stages before joining them. Makes about as much sense.

Goss, another rider they managed to make terrible.

Gerrans rode at a very high level that spring, and yes I do think part of it had to do with joining Greenedge.

Goss is about the only rider who really isn't a shadow of his former self at that team. Otherwise, I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

He'll probably end up riding on the front for Goss, Matthews etc a fair bit anyway.

goss and matthews? lol I think greenedge learned their lessons that's why they are getting climbers like chaves. their sprinters are a joke. although matthews I think has considerable talent but not as a top level sprinter

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Yeah a stint in the yellow jersey at the TDF is a joke/ two stage wins/ two Vuelta wins. Other than that how?

FDJ have enough young climbers already- Ellissonde, Pinot, Geniez...

none of the yates are climbers

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What rider is developing at GreenEdge? Apart from useless TTT's and riders like Gerrans and Albasini, who were already class, I can't see anyone developing. Matthews won 2 stages in the Vuelta, but the sprinters field was worse than at the last bike race at the kindergarten in front of my house.

almost none because they've got s*** riders, but those with some talent developped well like weening, tuft, despite his age, simon clarke, gerrans

 

[Winterfold]

I think he did realise that, given the quote you used is from him.

It's what makes the later quote about slaving look bitter and pathetic.

Clearly Greenedge need to get him on a media relations course before they let him out in public again, because this interview just makes him look petty and a candidate for a JTL slump the way he seems so excited about the trappings of going professional.

I reckon they have looked at what happened to JTL and acted accordingly.

It might be better development for them to race, and contest, in smaller hillier races eg Haut Var than be put to work.

That's what i read into it. I also hope they avoid the media training, I miss unadulterated Cav tweets etc

 

[Beech Mtn]

Marco Pinotti retires, will work as a coach in the BMC setup. Source

 

[Ruudz0r]

My knowledge of the Australian cycling scene is shaky. How good is Earle and what kind of rider is he? Reckon he'll be good enough to make it into any of Sky's GT squads?

He is a good rider, he is currently leading the Australian ranking http://nationalroadseries.subaru.com.au/rankings/. He is a GC guy/climber.

 

[greenedge]

My knowledge of the Australian cycling scene is shaky. How good is Earle and what kind of rider is he? Reckon he'll be good enough to make it into any of Sky's GT squads?

He is quite a good climber (Haig, Crawford and Lapthorne are also good climbers in the Aussie cycling scene racing domestically)- if Sky deem him to be up to WT standard early i think he should ride the Giro (he seems to be a friend of Porte's). He also has a good sprint on a hilltop finish.

If not that, the Vuelta would be good too.

Edit: Already stated

 

[Jancouver]

The team has existed for less than 2 years, maybe a bit early to judge?

Cam Meyer has an admittedly slow, but steady progression. Simon Clarke got top-10 at the Worlds. Pieter Weening seems to thrive in that team. Gerrans may already have been good, he didn't win Milan-San Remo before, did he?

They do make mistakes now and then, like not bringing Bling Matthews to the TDU when he was clearly in much better form than Goss, but other than that... seems to be a pretty good team. Speaking of Goss, they need to get rid of him.

Few good riders on the team but overall, the team is a joke, even their bus driver is a joke

 

[greenedge]

Goss is about the only rider who really isn't a shadow of his former self at that team. Otherwise, I don't know what you're talking about.

goss and matthews? lol I think greenedge learned their lessons that's why they are getting climbers like chaves. their sprinters are a joke. although matthews I think has considerable talent but not as a top level sprinter

none of the yates are climbers

almost none because they've got s*** riders, but those with some talent developped well like weening, tuft, despite his age, simon clarke, gerrans

This year Goss looked to be peaking for M-SR then he crashed It was a mistake to send him to the Giro/ his performance in last year's TDF suggested with more time at a new team he could do well. Next year he just has to target smaller races (not flat sprints) and build his confidence.

Matthews can also climb/ has a decent ITT- if he can get on the cobbles he could be like Boonen or a Degenkolb/ Sagan.

Adam finished higher than the Colombians at L'Avenir.

Durbridge.
Howson for next year.
Hepburn.

 

[CycloAndy]

He is a good rider, he is currently leading the Australian ranking http://nationalroadseries.subaru.com.au/rankings/. He is a GC guy/climber.

He is quite a good climber (Haig, Crawford and Lapthorne are also good climbers in the Aussie cycling scene racing domestically)- if Sky deem him to be up to WT standard early i think he should ride the Giro (he seems to be a friend of Porte's). He also has a good sprint on a hilltop finish.

If not that, the Vuelta would be good too.

Thanks, was thinking his friendship with Porte may make him a candidate for the giro. Is there any precedent of going from the Australian national road series to the world tour and being successful?

 

[gruppeto993]

van poppels and felline to Trek. I think the team is trying to develop their sprint train. They have nizzolo and hondo too. But their stage racing team seems to be in shatters since they got rid of monfort and kloden. (not that kloden was of any use anyway). probably because their GC captains-schelcks, have done nothing in almost two years??

 

[Afrank]

van poppels and felline to Trek. I think the team is trying to develop their sprint train. They have nizzolo and hondo too. But their stage racing team seems to be in shatters since they got rid of monfort and kloden. (not that kloden was of any use anyway). probably because their GC captains-schelcks, have done nothing in almost two years??

A smart move I think to bring in some young sprinters. While I still think and hope that Schleck can get back to his old levels, just in case he can't it's a good idea to develop some sprinters. That way they can still be competitive in GT's, stage races, and flatter sprinter classics instead of being a team centered entirely around Cancellara and the classics.

 

[roundabout]

The younger Van Poppel seems talented, same for Stuyven. But it's rather likely that Cancellera will be on his own in the classics in 2014 as all these guys would need time to grow.