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So how many of you got tired of hearing " the Lance Effect" when it came to those diehards saying that because of Armstrong bike sales and the bike industry soared??
HERE is what Bill Mashek , legal spokesman for Trek, had to say....

"The bike brand and the bikes stand in the market on their own among the riders," he said. "That's what's going to move bikes in shops."

Hmm...not a mention of how Lance 'used to sell lots of bikes '.
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
So how many of you got tired of hearing " the Lance Effect" when it came to those diehards saying that because of Armstrong bike sales and the bike industry soared??
HERE is what Bill Mashek , legal spokesman for Trek, had to say....

"The bike brand and the bikes stand in the market on their own among the riders," he said. "That's what's going to move bikes in shops."

Hmm...not a mention of how Lance 'used to sell lots of bikes '.

somehow, no matter how hard they try, I don't think they are gonna be able to get the stink of lance offa those bikes...they go hand in hand...
 
summerhill said:

it is truly heartening to see at least a little focus being placed on those who armstrong tried to destroy horribly for simply being honest and courageous. this is why i have never ever understood those who say "well, he did a lot of good". you can't equivocate when the bad he is doing is literally actively trying to destroy honest people's lives.
 
Love the Scenery said:
Oh, yeah!



Nike, Anheuser-Busch, and Trek on the same day!

His sources of funding are drying up fast and his lawyers are charging by the hour! Ladies and gentlemen, start your suit! Armstrong's power has always come from his money. I suspect this is going to change.

This really is bad news. Every shonky bike sales guy in the US won't be able to say "This is the exact bike Lance Armstrong rides" anymore.

Very sad.
 
The Gnome said:
Bro...is this a prediction or did something come up?

Companies cannot terminate contracts at a moments notice. They need to have lawyers look for possible consequences. The chance that all of Armstrong's sponsors decided to announce on the same day is slim. It was coordinated. The obvious explanation is that it is in preparation for an admission. Livestrong has a fifteen year anniversary shindig this weekend. Armstrong is supposed to speak.
 
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veganrob said:
Shonky? haha Crap, am I gonna have to worry when Wiggo gets busted because I carry Pinarello. Damn this is getting to be a tough business.

I think you'll be fine. Pinarellos were spectacular long before USPS 2.0 came along, and they will be afterwards as well :)
 
egtalbot said:
I think you'll be fine. Pinarellos were spectacular long before USPS 2.0 came along, and they will be afterwards as well :)

LOl, exactly! Pinarello's are amazing bikes, Wiggins getting busted/not busted I doubt would hurt the company or brand as badly as w/Armstrong and Trek. No way will the US market be force fed the greatness of Wiggins, like we were with Wonderboy.
 
Big Doopie said:
it is truly heartening to see at least a little focus being placed on those who armstrong tried to destroy horribly for simply being honest and courageous. this is why i have never ever understood those who say "well, he did a lot of good". you can't equivocate when the bad he is doing is literally actively trying to destroy honest people's lives.

Very well said.
 
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BroDeal said:
Companies cannot terminate contracts at a moments notice. They need to have lawyers look for possible consequences. The chance that all of Armstrong's sponsors decided to announce on the same day is slim. It was coordinated. The obvious explanation is that it is in preparation for an admission. Livestrong has a fifteen year anniversary shindig this weekend. Armstrong is supposed to speak.

This would be as stunning as you posting with a Vaughter's avatar. Oh wait...
 
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BroDeal said:
Companies cannot terminate contracts at a moments notice.

Not a lawyer, but I would have thought that any decent contract between a business and an individual where the relationship hinges on the individual's integrity would have an "out" clause if the individual turns out not to be what they say.
 
LongSprint said:
Not a lawyer, but I would have thought that any decent contract between a business and an individual where the relationship hinges on the individual's integrity would have an "out" clause if the individual turns out not to be what they say.

And those clauses will be reviewed by counsel for the current situation. On top of that, companies would like to see market studies for the impact of a decision. The usual tactic is to let existing contracts expire while deemphasizing the company's relationship with the endorsee. More than half a dozen companies do not all decide independently to sever relations with Armstrong within a few hours of each other.
 
Bro I hope you are wrong.
I want him to stew in his misery for much longer....an admission might endear him a few more fans...I'm not prepared for him to gain any traction after all the misery he has caused some folks.

It might be that as dominoes go, they have all been prepared with statements for a while but waiting for the first one to leap....then scurrying to not be the last to dump the soiled goods.
 
BroDeal said:
And those clauses will be reviewed by counsel for the current situation. On top of that, companies would like to see market studies for the impact of a decision. The usual tactic is to let existing contracts expire while deemphasizing the company's relationship with the endorsee. More than half a dozen companies do not all decide independently to sever relations with Armstrong within a few hours of each other.

I think there’s a good chance you’re right, but let me play the devil’s advocate. Despite their public statements (or lack of them), I’m quite sure all of these companies were monitoring the situation beginning with the federal investigation, and after that was dropped, from the USADA charging letter. I have to think they checked with their lawyers a long time ago, to see if it was feasible to drop LA on a moment’s notice, if it came to that.

Nike was first, I hypothesize, because the $500,000 story was very embarrassing. Even if it turned out to be false, no company wants that kind of publicity. They could see the possibility of more rumors emerging as time went on. Then, after Nike pulled the plug, other companies, which for all we know were touch-and-go since the reasoned decision on whether to drop LA, rushed in, because they did not want to be the last to drop a loser. If everyone except you has acted, you are either a genius or an idiot, and we know which that choice usually turns out to be.

Moreover, LA still has to worry about lawsuits. Some have suggested that the evidence is so strong that it doesn't matter at this point. But it still is a lot easier for companies to pursue a lawsuit if there is a confession of wrong doing. Just because of that, LA might be able to settle many of these suits for less than what he should owe. He offers them a deal that avoids a long legal process. But he can only do that if he hasn't publicly confessed.

Having said that,I won’t be shocked if LA confesses soon. Stepping down from Livestrong is a first step, it is basically an admission of guilt of something, even if only of causing trouble for others. And I understand that companies usually do not drop celebrities abruptly, but rather simply wait for their contract to expire. All of this does suggest something unusual is afoot. But if there really is a confession, I’m curious to see how it affects pending lawsuits. Unless he has secretly been meeting with all these people and forging deals, it seems to me a confession creates serious problems for him.
 
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As a Wisconsin resident, I wish I could support Trek.

But I never will.



I went to high school with one of the mouthpieces listed on the media contact info. Hope you're enjoying your inbox these days, Eric.