UCI helped Froome with illegal(?) TUE at Romandie

[thehog]

Looks like Prednisolone is Dr. Badzhilla drug of choice.

Perhaps he got Froome hooked on it?

Note the dosage.

http://www.cttm-kenya.com/docs/MwanzaPhenomenon.pdf

 

[The Hitch]

What is the difference between biltricide and pzq? Most things I've read say they are the same thing.

As do articles about froomes bilharzia-e.g. velonews

Biltricide, also known as praziquantel, blasts the parasites out of the human body

 

[Catwhoorg]

What is the difference between biltricide and pzq? Most things I've read say they are the same thing.

As do articles about froomes bilharzia-e.g. velonews

Biltricide is the Bayer trademarked name for the drug whose generic name is Praziquantel.

 

[Benotti69]

Daniel Friebe @friebos · 3h

Ex-Cofidis doc Jean Jacques Menuet says no rider should be competing if he needs oral corticosteroids.

http://www.medecinedusportconseils.com/

 

[Cycle Chic]

http://www.lejdd.fr/Sport/Cyclisme/Christopher-Froome-dope-par-l-UCI-671605

Dose horse
The latter then made a TUE application relating to the taking of oral corticosteroids in the medical management of the UCI and its head, Dr. Zorzoli, which has allowed solo Froome to ingest a dose of horse corticosteroids for the duration of the Tour de Romandie!

Dysfunction as the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) should not ignore them. The medical department, headed by Dr. Alan Vernec, has already seized of the matter and currently diligent investigation.

About Froome, who apostrophized end of May via Twitter doping authorities about the lack of controls during an internship in Tenerife, it would be better to ask the doctor Sky on the deleterious effects of steroid abuse, rather than to claim random samples sewn with white thread.

JDD doesnt mince words.

 

[JimmyFingers]

I assume that's a translation, because otherwise those words are well and truly minced

 

[LaFlorecita]

I assume that's a translation, because otherwise those words are well and truly minced

It is actually quite a good translation.

 

[hrotha]

You know my stance on Froome but that was pure sensationalist garbage.

 

[JimmyFingers]

It is actually quite a good translation.

No, no its not. The passage in English is atrocious

 

[JimmyFingers]

You know my stance on Froome but that was pure sensationalist garbage.

This. Horse dope? There is a pretty extreme level of spin going on. By the looks of it Froome had a legitimate emergency TUE. No rules were borken, no preferential treatment, no conflict of interests.

The real questions are: should athletes ever be allowed to use these sort of substances even for medical reason?

And that is a question for WADA and the UCI.

 

[the sceptic]

This. Horse dope? There is a pretty extreme level of spin going on. By the looks of it Froome had a legitimate emergency TUE. No rules were borken, no preferential treatment, no conflict of interests.

The real questions are: should athletes ever be allowed to use these sort of substances even for medical reason?

And that is a question for WADA and the UCI.

You must have been happy when Froome rose from his death bed to smash everyone a few days later.

 

[thehog]

This. Horse dope? There is a pretty extreme level of spin going on. By the looks of it Froome had a legitimate emergency TUE. No rules were borken, no preferential treatment, no conflict of interests.

The real questions are: should athletes ever be allowed to use these sort of substances even for medical reason?

And that is a question for WADA and the UCI.

Well it is used for horses, cats and dogs. So yes its a horse steroid.

But agree it just making it sound more horrific than it already is.

The problem here is Froome's performance at Romandie. It was "waaaaaaayyyyyy" out there considering his problems and form running into the event.

Something is up.... I'm sure somewhere out there there's French journalist rummaging around a trash can matching up TUEs.

 

[JimmyFingers]

You must have been happy when Froome rose from his death bed to smash everyone a few days later.

Death bed? He had a chest infection. Stop being so daft.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Well it is used for horses, cats and dogs. So yes its a horse steroid.

But agree it just making it sound more horrific than it already is.

The problem here is Froome's performance at Romandie. It was "waaaaaaayyyyyy" out there considering his problems and form running into the event.

Something is up.... I'm sure somewhere out there there's French journalist rummaging around a trash can matching up TUEs.

I agree with the fact that these drugs do enhance performance even when the rider is ill and shouldn't be used at all by athletes. But that is a protocol WADA needs to put in place. Until they do you can't blame riders and teams for using them if they can.

 

[the sceptic]

Death bed? He had a chest infection. Stop being so daft.

so what was the "legitimate emergency"? And how do you know the sky spin is the truth?

 

[JimmyFingers]

I'll take the Sky spin over your 'death bed' anyday

 

[Benotti69]

I agree with the fact that these drugs do enhance performance even when the rider is ill and shouldn't be used at all by athletes. But that is a protocol WADA needs to put in place. Until they do you can't blame riders and teams for using them if they can.

Even when a teams tells us they wont go the TUE route?

Jimmy not seeing the wood for the trees.

 

[Merckx index]

Looks like Prednisolone is Dr. Badzhilla drug of choice.

Perhaps he got Froome hooked on it?

Note the dosage.

Good find, hog. Note especially:

We recommend that instead, all individuals who touched lake water or swam in the lake should be treated

This would not be recommended if the treatment were in any way harsh, with serious side effects.

Please pass this information around to all those who are involved and assure them that cure is certain if treatment is taken properly.

As two doctors who posted here last year noted. It’s not normal to need multiple treatments over several years, with the disease coming and going.

This also confirms that Froome almost certainly had the mansoni strain.

 

[the sceptic]

I'll take the Sky spin over your 'death bed' anyday

of course you will Jimmy.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, no its not. The passage in English is atrocious

Obviously I didn't mean good translation as in perfectly translated I meant good translation as in, the words are just as mince in French as in English. It's not the translation that does it.

 

[JimmyFingers]

of course you will Jimmy.

Pal, you are the one using ridiculous language like 'death bed'. If you want what you say to be taken seriously, try turning down the hyperbole about five or six notches.

But then you don't, so you won't.

 

[thehog]

Good find, hog. Note especially:



This would not be recommended if the treatment were in any way harsh, with serious side effects.



As two doctors who posted here last year noted. It’s not normal to need multiple treatments over several years, with the disease coming and going.

This also confirms that Froome almost certainly had the mansoni strain.

Froome claims he's never required a TUE for Badzhilla. But the coincidence of Prednisone for Badzhilla treatment and his supposed coughing is too convenient. Especially as his Kenyan Doctor appears to prescribe praziquantel along with prednisone as standard treatment.

Couple that with the studies that suggest those with Asthma to be immune from Badzhilla theres more questions than answers.

Makes you wish Walsh was competent where he could actually ask intelligent questions to find out what really is going on with Froome's health.

At least Armstrong actually had cancer.

 

[King Boonen]

Froome claims he's never required a TUE for Badzhilla. But the coincidence of Prednisone for Badzhilla treatment and his supposed coughing is too convenient. Especially as his Kenyan Doctor appears to prescribe praziquantel along with prednisone as standard treatment.

Couple that with the studies that suggest those with Asthma to be immune from Badzhilla theres more questions than answers.

Makes you wish Walsh was competent where he could actually ask intelligent questions to find out what really is going on with Froome's health.

At least Armstrong actually had cancer.

Link? I seem to have missed this and on the surface it doesn't make any sense.

 

[TailWindHome]

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/06/w...es-in-granting-froome-tue-for-corticosteroid/

Irish GP Conor McGrane, who has also acted as Cycling Ireland’s doctor for several years – said that he didn’t fault Froome in this situation. “It is more about whether or not the UCI followed the correct procedures in the matter,” he told CyclingTips, speaking prior to WADA’s clarification that the regulations were indeed followed.

McGrane played down suggestions that the amount prescribed was excessive. “As regards the dosage…the amount specified is pretty standard in Ireland and the UK for when people are prescribed steroids for flareup of asthma. It would be 40mg per day for seven days.”

He pointed out that when he had to prescribe oral corticosteroids to ill athletes in the past, the TUE committee of the Irish Sports Council insisted on a 14 day break before competition. This was double the seven day break in place at the time under the WADA regulations.

 

[TailWindHome]

Froome claims he's never required a TUE for Badzhilla. But the coincidence of Prednisone for Badzhilla treatment and his supposed coughing is too convenient. Especially as his Kenyan Doctor appears to prescribe praziquantel along with prednisone as standard treatment.

Couple that with the studies that suggest those with Asthma to be immune from Badzhilla theres more questions than answers.

Makes you wish Walsh was competent where he could actually ask intelligent questions to find out what really is going on with Froome's health.

At least Armstrong actually had cancer.

If you contort any further you'll do yourself a mischief.