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thehog said:Froome does not eat pasta or bread.
Most cyclists have a restricted carb diet during training. How do you think they lose weight?
High carb, low fat is what keeps the weight off.
thehog said:Froome does not eat pasta or bread.
Most cyclists have a restricted carb diet during training. How do you think they lose weight?
thehog said:I don't think it's funny at all.
I had no idea Froome beat Tony Martin in the ITT because he was on high octane steroids.
I would have never have know if it wasn't for the diligence and investigative reporting of the French newspaper. Something we'd probably expect Walsh to have done.
thehog said:If you think that's trolling then I believe you don't really want to seek the truth. Just what goes along with your favorite rider/team.
The use of Asthma Inhalers
Published on August 31st, 2012
Why do so many athletes use asthma inhalers?
Drugs called beta-2 agonists, such as salbutamol, salmeterol and terbutaline, open the closed lungs of asthmatics and help them to breathe. They also increase the amount of fat in the bloodstream to increase energy sources of exercising muscles, help to preserve the muscles' store of sugar, and help muscles to contract with more force. The common inhaled asthma medication called albuterol has been shown to improve athletic performance.
These asthma medications are potent stimulants,
"I've felt completely blocked up through my front of quads since the crash and I've not been able to engage the same types of muscles that I used in the earlier stages," he said.
ii) Salbutamol
Inhaled salbutamol is no longer prohibited. However, the presence of
salbutamol in the urine in excess of 1000 ng/mL is presumed not to be
a therapeutic use of the substance and will be considered as an adverse
analytical finding. The athlete would then need to document the details
of his/her, medical condition and medication use. The athlete may then
be required to prove, by a controlled pharmacokinetic study (see annex 2)
that the abnormal test result was the consequence of the use of a
therapeutic dose (maximum 1600 micrograms over 24 hours) of inhaled
salbutamol.
Amazinmets73 said:High carb, low fat is what keeps the weight off.
good finds. agree that his comment re muscles sounded a bit oddish.Cycle Chic said:Good article on Asthma inhalers and the testing done on Salbutamol - and cleared by WADA.
http://www.runnerslife.co.uk/support-team/medical/asthma-inhalers
I thought it odd that Froome said this:-
Just an odd thing to say.
another good article
Suspicion Lifts Over Olympic Champion’s Use of Asthma Inhaler
http://www.wired.com/2010/12/salbutamol-doping/
to clarify, are we thinking of an abnormality in a sample tested by an accredited wada lab or did sky's internal testing show froome was glowing?Cycle Chic said:http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/S...ort_TUECs/WADA_Medical_info_Asthma_4.0_EN.pdf
Looks like the masking agent theory is the best bet.....he's had a urine abnormallity and got the TUE to prove it was the salbutamol.
Benotti69 said:Keep cheering Sky Mark.
thehog said:The rumor was he only arrived Saturday night then left...
thehog said:Yes to recovery.
The biggest enemy to a cyclist is inflammation. Not inflammation through injury but overuse and excessive amounts of training. The ability to get back on the bike the next day with next to nothing soreness and ride just as hard as the previous day is a huge advantage over a non-user. Your body is stiff and sore because it wants you to slow down so it can rebuild itself - hypertrophy etc.
An ice bath in a needle![]()
JimmyFingers said:Having digested all of this, while I don't think Froome or Sky has cheated in anyway, according the rules as they stand.
However the rules are wrong. I think the issuing of TUEs partiocularly drugs of this nature should be reviewed. Clearly this drug doesn't just address the respiratory problems Froome had, it has a systemic affect, gives the rider greater energy and lessens the effects of fatigue. So it clears up the cough AND gives Froome a performance boost during the Tour of Romandie.
That doesn't sit well with me, whatever the rules are. The MPCC doesn't allow TUEs, which is good, and other instituations insits on a 14 day rest period before issuing a TUE, giving the disease a chance to be cleared before the rider competes. If he still needs one after that, then he can have one.
But corticosteroids shouldn't be issued under a TUE ever IMO. If you need steroids then you don't race until you have stopped taking them. There must be greater attention to the severity of the disease and the potency of the drug taken to avoid any abuse of the system, because this system looks ripe for abuse.
Get these drugs out of the sport, its bonkers this is still going on after everything that has happened.
JimmyFingers said:So riders should be allowed to use a drug that boosts their performance even if they are ill? Doesn't really compute. There's a lot of pressure on riders to perform but if a rider is ill enough to need cortico then they shouldn't be riding. I think most of the medical profession would agree.
JimmyFingers said:But corticosteroids shouldn't be issued under a TUE ever IMO. If you need steroids then you don't race until you have stopped taking them. There must be greater attention to the severity of the disease and the potency of the drug taken to avoid any abuse of the system, because this system looks ripe for abuse.
Get these drugs out of the sport, its bonkers this is still going on after everything that has happened.
Zam_Olyas said:Really? or you made up the rumour.
Brooks Fahey Baldwin said:Sorry if im repeating anything as I only read the last 3 pages.
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The magic to Froome is that his cardiac output is utterly nuts. I mean twice what would be expected from a highly elite athlete. What causes that? No idea, but I would love to find out.
jens_attacks said:things like cortico should definitely be allowed both in and out competition but absolutely monitored by health inspectors. everyone should have the same rights,being froome or ben king. mpcc is bullshiit anyway, all the teams in there use corticosteroids,many quite a lot.
legalizing cortico was one of the very few smart and healty decisions of anti-doping agencies. step by step they should allow things like testo and hgh too under strict monitoring.
banning substances is the most idiotic things allowing certain teams with certain budgets to have the most supreme technology in medicines while a guy like facchini can't take some cough syrup or whatever.
uci's problem right now should be how again it leaked. it supposed to be confidencial, it's the health of an athlete. that isn't something public in a free world to my knowledge
thehog said:
thehog said:
Tinman said:"The call leaves Sky with only six men in Liège, where the 100th edition of the race started in front of Belgium’s king. Richie Porte leads the team.
Sky also was unable to field a full team to support Bradley Wiggins this week at Italy’s Giro del Trentino. Ian Boswell supported Wiggins, but he also had to rush from the Amstel Gold Race and back north for today’s Liège-Bastogne-Liège. He was the only rider to ride the rare triple.
“The problem is that we’ve had all the illness and crashes this year, more than you’d expect. In the last couple of years, we’ve had proportionally less than you’d expect to have. It’s like we’ve saved them all for once!” Brailsford explained.
“We have Jonathan Tiernan-Locke who’s not racing, Sergio Henao and his cousin have gone back to Colombia. CJ Sutton has a nasty hole in his knee after his crash. Chris [Froome] who’s ill. Pete Kennaugh is ill. And we have three race rosters to fill.
“It’s not just about being able to field a team today, it’s Romandie next week and the Tour of California. If you start chopping and changing too much, you find yourself in a difficult spot.”
So with all these Team Sky scratchings at L-B-L and various other events, who attended the Tenerife training camp? And is Ritchie the only one not glowing? It would explain his lack of performance since...
More Strides than Rides said:Yes and no. Inflamation may be an enemy of performance, but it is part of the bigger set of singnaling pathways that trigger adaptaion; if you mute the consequnce of stress, you dim the bodies response and thus the training effect. Same thing with Ice baths.
I posted a little bit ago how I couldn't wait to "look under the hood" of Froome pharmacology once it all unravelled. There is so much to look at when watching the way different drugs interact with each other, or with environmental factors. Increadibly complex and sophisticated, I don't think we've scratched the surface. It really is fascinating.