UCI Points system

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The New WorldTour Points System Explained

The New WorldTour Points System Explained - Lanterne Rouge

Following complaints from numerous teams about the WorldTour's promotion and relegation system, the UCI has published new regulations with significant changes. The rule amendment has been published less than a month before the start of the new 2023-2025 triennium, whose cumulative ranking will...

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Revolution in the cycling calendar: from 2026 no more overlapping races like Paris-Nice and Tirreno

Revolutie in de wielerkalender: vanaf 2026 geen overlappende koersen meer zoals Parijs-Nice en Tirreno

Over vier jaar zal de kalender van de topkoersen, de World Tour-wedstrijden dus, er helemaal anders uitzien. Vanaf 2026 mogen er geen overlappende WorldTour-koersen meer zijn, zo heeft UCI-topman Peter Van den Abeele laten weten in de podcast CROSS van Play Sports. Op dit moment worden tal van...

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In four years, the calendar of the top races, the World Tour competitions, will look completely different. From 2026 there will be no more overlapping WorldTour races, UCI CEO Peter Van den Abeele has announced in the CROSS podcast from Play Sports. At the moment, numerous top races are being ridden at the same time, such as the UAE Tour and Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico, the Tour of Catalonia and Bruges-De Panne, the E3 and Gent-Wevelgem and so on.

 

[tobydawq]

Revolution in the cycling calendar: from 2026 no more overlapping races like Paris-Nice and Tirreno

Revolutie in de wielerkalender: vanaf 2026 geen overlappende koersen meer zoals Parijs-Nice en Tirreno

Over vier jaar zal de kalender van de topkoersen, de World Tour-wedstrijden dus, er helemaal anders uitzien. Vanaf 2026 mogen er geen overlappende WorldTour-koersen meer zijn, zo heeft UCI-topman Peter Van den Abeele laten weten in de podcast CROSS van Play Sports. Op dit moment worden tal van...

www.nieuwsblad.be

In four years, the calendar of the top races, the World Tour competitions, will look completely different. From 2026 there will be no more overlapping WorldTour races, UCI CEO Peter Van den Abeele has announced in the CROSS podcast from Play Sports. At the moment, numerous top races are being ridden at the same time, such as the UAE Tour and Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico, the Tour of Catalonia and Bruges-De Panne, the E3 and Gent-Wevelgem and so on.

Hmm. I really don't see the problem that Catalonia overlaps with three Flemish classics (okay, two classics and the Brugge-De Panne race) for instance - they are races who would attract two completely different fields anyway. How is this even going to work? Will the season be longer? Fewer WorldTour races?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I also like the fact that PN and TA overlap with each other, and I think it would be a shame to change it. The same goes for Dauphiné and TdS.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

They've tried to stop the overlapping races before and it didn't work and never made it past this kind of planning stage. Largely because cycling can accommodate multiple different goals simultaneously and is harder to F1-ise because strangely enough the riders who are targeting Roubaix and the riders who are targeting País Vasco are not the same. It would only really be necessary in the event of them reducing down the team sizes so that they cannot accommodate doing two WT races simultaneously. I know they've wanted to trim down the WT teams a bit lately but we're a long way away from being in a position where they can't do two simultaneous WT races with completely differing skillset requirements, and the sooner UCI recognise that the likes of Wout van Aert are an exception, not the rule, and just because you don't have Gent-Wevelgem clash with Catalunya anymore does not mean that the big name Flemish classics men are going to race Catalunya, or that the big name Spanish and Latin American climbers are going to miraculously all want to do Gent-Wevelgem then fly back to Spain to start a stage race the next day.

Also am I seriously seeing that on the Continental circuit, a stage race GC and a one day race are worth the exact same amount? That's absolutely imbecilic. That discrepancy between the value of stage races and one day races needed to be INCREASED at the lower level, not the opposite. I guess there are a lot of French and Belgian one-day races that can guarantee Lappartient's buddies WT licences off the Coupe de France though.

 

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The New WorldTour Points System Explained

The New WorldTour Points System Explained - Lanterne Rouge

Following complaints from numerous teams about the WorldTour's promotion and relegation system, the UCI has published new regulations with significant changes. The rule amendment has been published less than a month before the start of the new 2023-2025 triennium, whose cumulative ranking will...

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On what planet is Montreal worth more points than Fleche?

 

[Bonimenier]

On what planet is Montreal worth more points than Fleche?

On this planet

 

[houtdffan]

On this planet

In no way is a made up classic worth more than something historic like Fleche

 

[Bonimenier]

In no way is a made up classic worth more than something historic like Fleche

It literally is.

 

[houtdffan]

It literally is.

Only in the UCIs warped mind

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Only in the UCIs warped mind

I probably wouldn't award more points for it either, but it does usually deliver more action than FW and definitaly isn't as predictable. That said, I have absolutely nothing against FW being an uphill sprint to the line.

 

[Anderis]

I think it is to encourage teams to send decent rosters to far away races. You can see Tour Down Under awarding more points than Itzulia too, for example.

 

[StryderHells]

In no way is a made up classic worth more than something historic like Fleche

Aren’t they all made up classics?
But I do agree it shouldn’t be worth more points.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

LMAO, it's like McQuaid never went away!

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

So here are the differences that the new system makes: is it an improvement?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1617104409103564800

View: https://twitter.com/raulbanqueri/status/1617104409103564800


(Thanks to LeadBelly at VR for bringing ot to my attention)

 

[Anderis]

I don't understand those numbers. Bettiol 5-->20 - what does that mean? He's scored much more than that.

 

[Samamba]

I am a bit scared riders like Matthews are getting a too big of a bump because of the system. Riders that are extremely consistent but almost never win. Cycling should still be about winning. Instead of making the system more topheavy (what I would've liked) they made it less by doing the same in GTs as what they were doing in .1 and .Pro races. I would've preferred less points for minor placements in smaller races instead to balance it out (and more points for top 5 in GT of big WT stages, but not top 15 or top 10 for example).

 

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2023 update so far

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618384650166210561

View: https://twitter.com/UTRcycling/status/1618384650166210561

 

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More updates, UAE still raking up points, Jumbo Visma in danger of relegation

 

[yaco]

I find it interesting that Oman, Ruta Del Sol and Algarve added a prep race before their tours - Could we see more of this in the future, especially with UCI points up for grabs.

 

[Samamba]

I find it interesting that Oman, Ruta Del Sol and Algarve added a prep race before their tours - Could we see more of this in the future, especially with UCI points up for grabs.

Oman and Algarve definitely have something to do with UCI points yes. Look at the difference in quality starting in Oman between this year and last year. That Muscat classic definitely helped. More points to be earned there in total than in the UAE Tour for example.

Murcia and Almeria have always existed and Jaen was there last year already so I wouldn't say those Spanish races are the result of the UCI points being important.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Could we see more of this in the future, especially with UCI points up for grabs.

We've seen it in the past, the TDU being the classic example. If there's a sponsor for it - a way for the organiser to make a buck - it'll happen. Given you've got a captive audience (well, teams and riders) it makes sense in places like Canada (there's a curtain-raiser of some sort to the two Canadian races), Australia and the Middle East. But it doesn't work so well in Europe.

 

[tobydawq]

More updates, UAE still raking up points, Jumbo Visma in danger of relegation

Will Vingegaard manage to win the Tour considering the added pressure of having to save the team from relegation?

I think that's a big plus for Pogacar.

 

[Samamba]

Jayco has more points now than they had after Paris Nice last season.
Israel has more points now than they had after MSR last season.
EF has more points now than they had after the whole spring classic season last year.

The only WT (or top PCT) teams that don't have more points now than at the same time last season are Arkea (not even half) and Astana (apparently it's possible to do even worse), Alpecin . The rest has more (main reason is obviously the Australian races being back with more points than ever).