UCI to ban supertuck descending starting April 1st.

[tobydawq]

Supertucking?

Yes.

 

[Rackham]

I saw Carapaz do it live on Sunday but it looked like he still had his backside perched on the edge of his seat, so it looked like an "almost but not quite" supertuck.

I guess the UCI don't have a sense of humor though.

 

[JayKosta]

"When the angle of the torso is less than 45 degrees, the rider's anus must be above and rearward of the top of the seat post"

 

[42x16ss]

They need to make the distinction asap, between a rider riding solo (and risking nobody's but his own safety) and a rider in group. Same with the arms on the bar in TT fashion. The entire "but kids will copy it" is such BS. That's were parenting and coaching comes in. Ban it from youth races if need be. But both measures are against the breakaway rider, against offensive cycling.

Interesting that you say that. Alex Howes made a comment on the UCI's instagram post announcing Carapaz's DQ saying that they don't like breaks or attacking riding.

Rohan Dennis has also used his TrollCyclist instagram account to absolutely slam them.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Interesting that you say that. Alex Howes made a comment on the UCI's instagram post announcing Carapaz's DQ saying that they don't like breaks or attacking riding.

Rohan Dennis has also used his TrollCyclist instagram account to absolutely slam them.

I said that when they first announced it (maybe in this thread, can't remember). Long breaks/solos without the TT position especially, will be much harder to pull off, against a chasing peloton, where riders can get in each other's wheel after 10 seconds. It's really the dumbest decision they could have made. Solos like those of Asgreen, Evenepoel, van der Poel... ?

EDIT: it was here

 

[dusty red roads]

Yes, the below quote from the CN Carapaz article mentions this too:

UCI president David Lappartient explained why the rules would be enforced while announcing sweeping changes to improve rider safety, saying in February, "We banned the (super-tuck) positions because the riders explained it can give up to 14 per cent benefit and if you don’t use it at the top of a mountain, you can be left behind."

That's ridiculous! smh!

 

[kingjr]

Yes, the below quote from the CN Carapaz article mentions this too:

UCI president David Lappartient explained why the rules would be enforced while announcing sweeping changes to improve rider safety, saying in February, "We banned the (super-tuck) positions because the riders explained it can give up to 14 per cent benefit and if you don’t use it at the top of a mountain, you can be left behind."

That's ridiculous! smh!

14%? Not 15 or 13?

 

[dusty red roads]

14 the magic number obviously!

 

[CyclistAbi]

UCI eases rules to break bidon bottleneck at Giro d'Italia

Riders will not be sanctioned for tossing bottles to public on climbs in last 50km, with caveats

www.cyclingnews.com

A bit better but still long way to go.

 

[Ricco']

Yes, the below quote from the CN Carapaz article mentions this too:

UCI president David Lappartient explained why the rules would be enforced while announcing sweeping changes to improve rider safety, saying in February, "We banned the (super-tuck) positions because the riders explained it can give up to 14 per cent benefit and if you don’t use it at the top of a mountain, you can be left behind."

That's ridiculous! smh!

Me and my research team have recently finished an academic study where we reached the conclusion that someone descending a mountain at 80 kph have a benefit of 60% compared to someone who doesn't go over 50 kph. Therefore, our recommendation is to set a speed limit and to put speed traps down the mountains to catch the wrongdoers.

 

[RedheadDane]

Me and my research team have recently finished an academic study where we reached the conclusion that someone descending a mountain at 80 kph have a benefit of 60% compared to someone who doesn't go over 50 kph. Therefore, our recommendation is to set a speed limit and to put speed traps down the mountains to catch the wrongdoers.

Riders with a weight below 60kgs are likely to have an advantage on the climbs over those with a weight above 60kgs. Therefore small pocket climbers should be required to put on some weight!
Ideally, they should also "do a Pidcock", and instant-grow by up to 15 cm!

 

[Red Rick]

Have they ended crashes yet?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Yes, the below quote from the CN Carapaz article mentions this too:

UCI president David Lappartient explained why the rules would be enforced while announcing sweeping changes to improve rider safety, saying in February, "We banned the (super-tuck) positions because the riders explained it can give up to 14 per cent benefit and if you don’t use it at the top of a mountain, you can be left behind."

That's ridiculous! smh!

Pedalling hard can give a considerable benefit, and if you don't start doing so soon enough, you can be left behind. Should that also be banned?

 

[CyclistAbi]

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mohoric-ive-destroyed-cycling-now-everyone-will-use-a-dropper-post/

Supertuck makes a grand return.

UCI statement concerning dropper seatposts

www.uci.org

UCI is on board.

Don't see on how a "dropper seatpost" won't become a part of a standard equipment. Especially in races or stages including a long and technical descend.

 

[Izzyeviel]

can someone explain what a dropper seatpost is please?

 

[jmdirt]

can someone explain what a dropper seatpost is please?

Dropper Post Photo
It allows you to drop the seat 100-200 mm and back with the flick of a lever on the bars. The top part slides into the bottom part.
Old School Dropper Advert

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

can someone explain what a dropper seatpost is please?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeEaeY25Amg

Dropper Post Photo

It allows you to drop the seat 100-200 mm and back with the flick of a lever on the bars.

You're probably wondering why you've landed here of all places. Well, as of 25.05.2018, Backcountry is no longer available outside the U.S. due to GDPR regulations.

 

[jmdirt]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeEaeY25Amg



You're probably wondering why you've landed here of all places. Well, as of 25.05.2018, Backcountry is no longer available outside the U.S. due to GDPR regulations.

OOPs, sorry, I was just trying to post a photo of a dropper post. I put a different one in there now.

 

[Red Rick]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeEaeY25Amg



You're probably wondering why you've landed here of all places. Well, as of 25.05.2018, Backcountry is no longer available outside the U.S. due to GDPR regulations.

10s over 4 minutes on the first time of using that thing is massive. If I were a top team I would rush my riders to learn how to use that

 

[CyclistAbi]

Just remember that you still need Mohorič. The "dropper seatpost" alone won't win you MSR.

 

[firefly3323]

FWIW in The Move podcast Johan Bruyneel said he is sure that it will be banned by UCI.

 

[jmdirt]

FWIW in The Move podcast Johan Bruyneel said he is sure that it will be banned by UCI.

The UCI approved them already (prior to this case).
"The UCI Equipment Commission approved the use of dropper seatposts in road cycling competitions in 2014. Their use is subject to the minimum 5cm setback rule of article 1.3.013 of the UCI Regulations, i.e., when the dropper seatpost is set to its highest or lowest setting, the saddle setback must be in full compliance with article 1.3.013."

 

[Red Rick]

I think that the UCI approved them already (prior to this case).

Apparently already in 2014 already, and apparently Nibali had tried it out at spme point in 2017.

Back in the day it would obviously not be as appealing cause you could supertuck and Im not sure its faster tham pedaling supertuck, but this is great for cornering as well.

Imagine the gaps you could make as a great descender with a drop seat vs a weak descender without one on a hard 15km descent. Its massive.

The only drawback is the added weight for the mechamism but Im sure they can bring that down, if they even need to considering they can already get
bikes below the minimum weight

Also GCN guy only had a 10cm drop, which isnt the maximum

 

[CyclistAbi]

FWIW in The Move podcast Johan Bruyneel said he is sure that it will be banned by UCI.

On what grounds exactly? Personally i feel that the other extreme will likely become the norm. That is based on all the science behind it seat post will adjust accordingly (to terrain).

Marginal gains.

 

[tobydawq]

I think it's quite intriguing and I had never heard of a dropper post before Saturday. I must also admit that I just cannot see the difference in his riding position even now when I watch the descent.