Ullrich confessed

[blackcat]

i could not believe myself about DZ's evidence before USADA, and him breaking down before Armstrong when he was bullied to dope because he had promised his father. so what about after leaving USPS? nothing at Garmin and St Moritz training camps. it may have been nothing. BUT I DONT buy it.

 

[jdog117]

I am a of course new here but not to forums of this type. It appears that Jan interviewed with Focus this week but kind of hard to do since he has been in Colorado. He did speak with people from Focus about a year ago but not a confession interview.
I appears that Focus is just looking to piece together a story from what may have been said at that time and just before the TDF. How convenient.
Sensationalism at it best or worst. Do you really think they would sit on a confession for a year. I am not defending any of his past actions just saying the interview never happened.

 

[thehog]

I am a of course new here but not to forums of this type. It appears that Jan interviewed with Focus this week but kind of hard to do since he has been in Colorado. He did speak with people from Focus about a year ago but not a confession interview.
I appears that Focus is just looking to piece together a story from what may have been said at that time and just before the TDF. How convenient.
Sensationalism at it best or worst. Do you really think they would sit on a confession for a year. I am not defending any of his past actions just saying the interview never happened.

Tour-de-France Sieger Jan Ullrich hat in einem Interview mit dem FOCUS erstmals Blut-Doping beim spanischen Sportarzt Fuentes zugegeben. Betrogen haben will er damit allerdings nicht. Für ihn ist das Thema nun auch abgehakt. mehr Informationen anzeigen

Das Video im O-Ton: "Tour-de-France-Sieger Jan Ullrich hat im Interview mit dem Nachrichtenmagazin Focus erstmals zugegeben, gedopt zu haben. Er habe aber keine anderen Dopingmittel verwendet als sein eigenes Blut. Nun wolle er die Vergangenheit ruhen lassen. „Das Thema ist für mich abgehakt. Ich will nur noch nach vorne schauen und nie wieder zurück", sagte Ullrich in dem Interview. Zur Blutdoping-Behandlung sei er zum umstrittenen spanischen Sportmediziner Fuentes gegangen sagte Ullrich. Vehement wehrte sich der 39-jährige in dem Interview gegen den Vorwurf, betrogen zu haben. Fast jeder habe damals leistungssteigernde Substanzen genommen. Er habe nichts genommen, was die anderen nicht auch genommen haben", sagte er dem Focus. Vom Doping-Skandal um den früheren Konkurrenten Lance Armstrong zeigte sich Ullrich nicht überrascht. Ihm sei klar gewesen, dass auch Armstrong nicht davonkommen würde, auch wenn er vermutlich jahrelang von der einen oder anderen Institution und dem Weltverband geschützt wurde, sagte Ullrich. Er sei nicht besser als Armstrong, aber auch nicht schlechter. ORTE: DIVERSE"

 

[jdog117]

I got my information straight from the horses mouth. You can take it for you will. The media does not always tell the truth. Maybe Jan will respond to this in time.

 

[thehog]

I got my information straight from the horses mouth. You can take it for you will. The media does not always tell the truth. Maybe Jan will respond to this in time.

I actually agree with you.

The supposed interview was lame and lukewarm.

Will await Ulle's response.

 

[Hugh Januss]

If in fact a media outlet cobbled up a false "interview" it would seem to me that the response should be very quick, and legal in nature.

 

[kungzlatan]

I actually agree with you.

The supposed interview was lame and lukewarm.

Will await Ulle's response.

this is his respons but my german is not good enough to translatet it good enough

Liebe Fans,

heute Morgen bin ich von einer zehntägigen Mountainbike-Reise duch die Wildnis Colorados zurückgekehrt. Ich bin überrascht über die mediale Reaktion auf mein Interview in der aktuellen Focus-Ausgabe. Anlässlich der 100. Tour de France hat mich der Focus um ein Interview gebeten, welches kurz vor meiner Abreise geführt wurde und in dem es vorwiegend um andere Themen geht. Ihr könnt Euch alle selbst ein Bild davon machen. Und im Grunde habe ich nur in anderen Worten das wiederholt, was ich vor 14 Monaten nach meiner Verurteilung bereits gesagt habe. Die große Aufregung kann ich nicht nachvollziehen. Es war definitiv nicht meine Absicht, von der Deutschen Meisterschaft und den Vorbereitungen unserer Fahrer auf die Tour, abzulenken. Im Gegenteil, ich möchte den Deutschen Meistern Tony Martin (Zeitfahren) und André Greipel (Straße) gratulieren und wünsche allen deutschen Tour-Teilnehmern viel Erfolg!

Euer Jan

 

[jdog117]

Jan has been very quiet over the years and Focus may be relying on this. The other issue is they will no doubt use the premise that some of the information has already been published if legal issues arise. I suppose that Jan will seek counsel before taking any action or making any statements.
BTW: White Boy Trash or Hog just to be tranparent I am also know as jhuskey in another forum if you remember me.

 

[Race Radio]

I am a of course new here but not to forums of this type. It appears that Jan interviewed with Focus this week but kind of hard to do since he has been in Colorado. He did speak with people from Focus about a year ago but not a confession interview.
I appears that Focus is just looking to piece together a story from what may have been said at that time and just before the TDF. How convenient.
Sensationalism at it best or worst. Do you really think they would sit on a confession for a year. I am not defending any of his past actions just saying the interview never happened.

Right now he is in Arizona. Wonderful at this time of the year

 

[Race Radio]

this is his respons but my german is not good enough to translatet it good enough

Liebe Fans,

heute Morgen bin ich von einer zehntägigen Mountainbike-Reise duch die Wildnis Colorados zurückgekehrt. Ich bin überrascht über die mediale Reaktion auf mein Interview in der aktuellen Focus-Ausgabe. Anlässlich der 100. Tour de France hat mich der Focus um ein Interview gebeten, welches kurz vor meiner Abreise geführt wurde und in dem es vorwiegend um andere Themen geht. Ihr könnt Euch alle selbst ein Bild davon machen. Und im Grunde habe ich nur in anderen Worten das wiederholt, was ich vor 14 Monaten nach meiner Verurteilung bereits gesagt habe. Die große Aufregung kann ich nicht nachvollziehen. Es war definitiv nicht meine Absicht, von der Deutschen Meisterschaft und den Vorbereitungen unserer Fahrer auf die Tour, abzulenken. Im Gegenteil, ich möchte den Deutschen Meistern Tony Martin (Zeitfahren) und André Greipel (Straße) gratulieren und wünsche allen deutschen Tour-Teilnehmern viel Erfolg!

Euer Jan

He says the interview happened before he left for his trip and he is sorry it interfered with the Tour and the German Championships

 

[kungzlatan]

He says the interview happened before he left for his trip and he is sorry it interfered with the Tour and the German Championships

ok from my poor german i thougt he said that he don´t have say something to the newspaper in 14 months and then he said nothing new at all?

 

[jfromm]

He says the interview happened before he left for his trip and he is sorry it interfered with the Tour and the German Championships

He also says that he doesn't understand the big fuss as he is not saying anything different than he said at the time of his conviction 14 months ago.

 

[Race Radio]

Says who? Do you *still* think they left Postal and only to go clean with Liberty Seguros and/or CSC, the veritable poster-children for blood-bag Fuentes?

I do not think they went clean but there is zero indication they did blood bags or were customers of Fuentes

 

[thehog]

He also says that he doesn't understand the big fuss as he is not saying anything different than he said at the time of his conviction 14 months ago.

There's a lot of Ulle love here on this forum.

Race Radio is suggesting Ullrich was a chemical creation which is not fair at all. He's also suggesting he had an unfair advantage over others because he was cashed up which is also unfair.

There will only be one Jan Ullrich. Legend.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I tend to agree with RR. Although since Hamilton had already done transfusions maybe it wasn't so much about soothing Hamilton as about Riis wanting to look cool and edgy.

Transfusions have some advantages over EPO, but they're a lot more inconvenient.

Just to remind you, that when Riis asked Tyler had he done transfusions, Tyler said no (even though he had).

The Riis transfusion story always feels odd, but then again, it seems they were doing transfusions on USPS before the EPO test in 2001.

 

[blackcat]

There's a lot of Ulle love here on this forum.

Race Radio is suggesting Ullrich was a chemical creation which is not fair at all. He's also suggesting he had an unfair advantage over others because he was cashed up which is also unfair.

There will only be one Jan Ullrich. Legend.

nah, RR is only passing on the info from his sources, like early telekom training camps, being unable to hold the pace on climbs before they had him on EPO. and RR has always said his rouleur and chrono abilities would have manifested.

just not winning July

 

[hrotha]

Just to remind you, that when Riis asked Tyler had he done transfusions, Tyler said no (even though he had).

The Riis transfusion story always feels odd, but then again, it seems they were doing transfusions on USPS before the EPO test in 2001.

Ah, good point.

 

[thehog]

nah, RR is only passing on the info from his sources, like early telekom training camps, being unable to hold the pace on climbs before they had him on EPO. and RR has always said his rouleur and chrono abilities would have manifested.

just not winning July

One only needs to read this thread to see what Mr. RR has been suggesting about Ulle.

 

[Race Radio]

He also says that he doesn't understand the big fuss as he is not saying anything different than he said at the time of his conviction 14 months ago.

Isn't he actally saying that

basically I have only repeated in other words, what I said 14 months ago after my conviction

It sounds like he says used different words to say things he has hinted at for years.

Would have been cool if he said something like

"I would like to thank Dr. Fuentes, Schmid, and Heinrich. Without their help I would not have been able to live such a easy retirement and take such great vacations to Colorado"

And then he said his real story will be out on Tuesday

 

[Gregga]

Just to remind you, that when Riis asked Tyler had he done transfusions, Tyler said no (even though he had).

The Riis transfusion story always feels odd, but then again, it seems they were doing transfusions on USPS before the EPO test in 2001.

Why they switched to transfusions in 2000 is quite a mystery to me.
It was just after Tyler crushed LA in Ventoux on the Dauphiné, just after Bruyneel told Armstrong "don't worry we are going to talk to Michele, it'll be fine"

There was rumours of EPO tests on the TdF, were they trying to ride the Dauphiné without EPO during the race to see if they kept their advantage ?... and concluded they needed another stuff ?

One thing is sure : one month later LA killed everyone on Hautacam, with power levels he had rarely achieved (according to Vayer) and did it again on Ventoux with Pantani the day after his transfusion. After that, he faded, maybe short of EPO and BB.

Any idea about the doping scheme in '00 TdF at USPS ?

 

[kungzlatan]

Well maybe he needed 1 season to get use to the high mountains also. I don't think he did see lot of them before he won the world championship 93. 95 after he didn't get selected to the tour he smashed some record in some famous mountain i think. So maybe mountain training and Telekoms "help" was the combo he needed. So i think still you can consider that ullrich was absolutely the most talented and gifted rider of his generation

 

[blackcat]

Well maybe he needed 1 season to get use to the high mountains also. I don't think he did see lot of them before he won the world championship 93. 95 after he didn't get selected to the tour he smashed some record in some famous mountain i think. So maybe mountain training and Telekoms "help" was the combo he needed. So i think still you can consider that ullrich was absolutely the most talented and gifted rider of his generation

no. other riders were winning the tour before epo oat 22. if he was that talented, he would not have been climbing with the rouleurs like aldag said at telekom training campls

edit:udo bolts, not aldag

 

[thehog]

Isn't he actally saying that



It sounds like he says used different words to say things he has hinted at for years.

Would have been cool if he said something like



And then he said his real story will be out on Tuesday

Zzzzzzzzzz.


Race Radio propaganda brought to you by JV productions.

Appears others know more from Ulle than you do. You were over here with the scoop thats now not a scoop

 

[kungzlatan]

no. other riders were winning the tour before epo oat 22. if he was that talented, he would not have been climbing with the rouleurs like aldag said at telekom training campls

Tell my how won the tdf in 22 and was in ullrich generation? And in the movie about Telekom in the tdf 03 zabel was saying ullrich has a gift from god. And even how much my and aldag will train we will not stand a chance special in the mountains . Aldag was in the same room and didn't say one word about it. But what I found strange is that almost every Telekom rider have the devil as tattoo on there arm.
Maybe for protect the neddel scars or something?

 

[ElChingon]

Zzzzzzzzzz.


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Appears others know more from Ulle than you do. You were over here with the scoop thats now not a scoop

Odd how he states to know everything but really says nothing, sounds like the problem is him instead of the riders. If one knows then its ones responsibility to let the people know otherwise it just toeing the line ala the Omerta.

Different feet same shoes. As always its not just the riders but those who hide them and their secrets even supposed secrets. The first to yell "where's the link" then only comes around shouting "Fire Fire" (as in dope or infraction) but no proof.