USADA - Armstrong

[ChewbaccaD]

Why would the Euro guys named by the USADA even bother to respond. I would guess they have not/will not. They will "do a Floyd". IE: that "hacking case".

Also, the USADA has said publicly that all the info they have is already in the Public Domain. Joe Public Domain. Nothing new. SSDD.

Lance can have a "closed hearing", but Joe Public has heard it all before time and time again. So not really "closed".

Or maybe Lance can just blow off the witch hunt SSDD hearing and hope the ASO would act rationally and ignore any witch hunt USADA sanctions. Why would the ASO tarnish the TdF by taking Lance off the Roll of Honor. Dumb. The ASO does NOT have to abide by the USADA. Oh no, the USADA will be mad at the ASO. The USADA will boycott the TdF. Who cares? Joe Public? The ASO would not care. Lance does not care.

We've gone over this before, and you agreed, Lance is junkie scum and we know nobody wants that associated with their race. Junkie scum history has to be erased. No choice. Joe Public knows about junkie scum too. Like us, you and me. Junkies Scum. SSDD.

 

[MarkvW]

Brilliant first post! Welcome aboard.

Others may have thought it (probably not), you make an excellent point and the first to broach a compelling option... ???

Well done.

Turns the tables doesn't it. Open forum.

edit.

Anyone have some opinions on why a guilty party might want a member of his cohort, i.e. the most guilty, to air his dirty laundry in public?

Forget Armstrong for a moment. Think about Ferrari--he's a good example.

Ferrari has absolutely no motivation to participate in the hearing process. He already operates outside of the cycling world (especially with respect to Italian riders). Why would he fight, and expose himself to being deposed and/or cross-examined at the arbitration hearing?

So, Ferrari doesn't fight. The decision comes down, and all the evidence gets spilled in the Arbitration decision.

I don't see how the information gets suppressed.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

The next step for usada now that the review board have ruled to move forward will be what? Since the review board has made their ruling is it now time for some type of response from Lance?
These private investigators are probably busy looking into these cyclists who are the witnesses. My guess is that Lance and his legal team already know who the witnesses are playing up the fact that usada have not released evidence.
Does Floyd have any problems when the cross exam comes from Lance’s legal eagles? What about all those twitter posts? That might be information that would represent him as being unstable?

Do your own heavy lifting junior. The answers are there, but like most of Lance's fans (who share his GED level of edumikation and intelligence), you might need someone to guide you to the answers. I'm cool with that. I was a teacher, so I took an oath to help rid the world of ignorance, so you're welcome ahead of time: Just read this thread again, all the answers about what happens to junkie scum like Lance are there.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

If you think that the united states citizen who does not follow cycling is going to give two cents about this then you must be living somewhere besides the united states. Sure in Europe where cycling is followed much more closely than in the united states it will be as you have pointed out to me. I disagree with you that it will be bigger than John Edwards, Barry Bonds and Lindsey.

Everybody cares about junkie scum who lies to children and adults with cancer so that he can get rich. Everybody. Nothing new there. People don't like lying junkie scum rich cancer liars, so it's cool. The disturbance in the force will be taken care of. Always is.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/28/459...#storylink=cpy



I found this "advice" from the 3 person review board NOT to use any insider info that they DO have. Only to use Joe Public Domain info.

Why aren't they using this other info? Maybe because they want to be "compliant with Federal Laws". To me that means the USADA has info they legally should not have oops. "Reveiw" Board says "better not use that info - stick to Joe Public Domain stuff. Lets not take a chance. Lance will file a Motion. Oh, but lets use the "Lance Intimidation" excuse.

But the USADA has now given Lance an Open Invitation for a Closed Hearing. Lance can truthfully say - 'Why should I let the USADA parade out all this old SSDD info that Joe Public already has? Just be another Witch Hunt.

"Joe Public is tired of hearing all these Witch Hunt stories. Joe Public KNOWS I have been tested 500 times without a fail. Joe Public KNOWS I was cleared by the Feds". ETC ETC ETC.

Also, the info that the USADA will not use - does it incriminate other riders? And will they be getting their sweet deals anyway. Probably a Star Chamber Secret.

No, they aren't using the private info because they know junkie scum have scummy friends. Friends who do illegal and bad things. Nobody wants anyone to get hurt. Junkie scum hurt people. Junkie scum friends hurt people. Keep it secret until junkie scum needs to know. Junkie scum has until the 9th to decide if he wants to see the hole cards. Probably doesn't. Gonna keep it all secret though. Junkie scum are like cockroaches, they don't like the light.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Are you saying the USADA WILL present info that is NOT part of Public Domain. Seems to me they said they won't. If they do - isn't that lying?

No, like most junkie scum GED fans, you don't read too good. Said they'd keep it secret so junkie scum doesn't sick his scummy friends on people. Junkie scum wants to hurt everyone who tells the truth. Gotta respect that, right lol. SSDD.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Sorry about the 404. The Hog posted this story upthread correctly, and it was discussed upthread too.

I think I can see where we disconnect though....

I read it as saying the USADA will not reveal any non-public domain stuff to the Arbitration Guys.

You seem to read it as the USADA will keep it secret from the Lance Gang but will reveal the inside info to the Arbitration Guys. That seems sneaky to me. Perverting justice. Lame excuse too...Lance intimidation. Lance should keep the hearing secret or blow it off imo. Serve the USADA right.

Nah, that is real world smart. Junkie scum hurt people to keep their secrets. Everybody knows that lol. SSDD.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

C'mon 13131313, no reason to call me a liar. Call me wrong or ignoramus or mistaken, but liar is a bit off base.

Seriously, I would have passed a lie detector test on my understanding until Red Flanders offered me another interpretation. Now I think I may be mistaken? Not sure truthfully .And when/if USADA unveils some info outside of all the reams of Public Domain stuff - you can say "see I told you so". Although the USADA secret info will be wrong most likely. Hey, my George Castanza approved lie detector did NOT go off.

Yea, people generally associate traits to you based on the company you keep. Junkie scum cancer children liars reflects badly on you. Just a mistake though. No problem. Just a mistake.

 

[Anonymous]

C'mon 13131313, no reason to call me a liar. Call me wrong or ignoramus or mistaken, but liar is a bit off base.

Seriously, I would have passed a lie detector test on my understanding until Red Flanders offered me another interpretation. Now I think I may be mistaken? Not sure truthfully .And when/if USADA unveils some info outside of all the reams of Public Domain stuff - you can say "see I told you so". Although the USADA secret info will be wrong most likely. Hey, my George Castanza approved lie detector did NOT go off.

You mean like claiming repeatedly (after being called on it) that LA had been cleared by the Feds?

No, you are a liar. Best everyone here understand that when perusing your crap.

 

[Race Radio]

Forget Armstrong for a moment. Think about Ferrari--he's a good example.

Ferrari has absolutely no motivation to participate in the hearing process. He already operates outside of the cycling world (especially with respect to Italian riders). Why would he fight, and expose himself to being deposed and/or cross-examined at the arbitration hearing?

So, Ferrari doesn't fight. The decision comes down, and all the evidence gets spilled in the Arbitration decision.

I don't see how the information gets suppressed.

Ferrari has bigger issues to worry about

 

[MarkvW]

Ferrari has bigger issues to worry about

Another reason he won't contest. Another reason the truth will out.

 

[Anonymous]

For convenience, I'm thinking junkie scum should be acronym'd to JS, or js if everyone prefers.

I don't know how fast TFF types... But surely my suggestion will save everyone some time.

 

[Anonymous]

No, like most junkie scum GED fans, you don't read too good. Said they'd keep it secret so junkie scum doesn't sick his scummy friends on people. Junkie scum wants to hurt everyone who tells the truth. Gotta respect that, right lol. SSDD.

Maybe we can get a two for one deal? Send both of them. Maybe LA's empty suit attorney too.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

For convenience, I'm thinking junkie scum should be acronym'd to JS, or js if everyone prefers.

I don't know how fast TFF types... But surely my suggestion will save everyone some time.

JS. Shorten up the typing. Roger wilco.

 

[college]

The old 'unstable' ploy.
All 10+ witnesses unstable and bitter?

I'll bet Floyd didn't even twit most of those posts himself.

So someone was a poser for car wash floyd? Please tell more! I bet money you are deluca fan. How about that.

 

[Anonymous]

So someone was a poser for car wash floyd? Please tell more! I bet money you are deluca fan. How about that.

Who's deluca?

 

[college]

Good to see College threatening the PI's again.

As stated law enforcement authorities have been informed. Any form of witnesses intimidation direct or indirect will result in arrests.

It is amazing that U guys can call me all sorts of things and atribute things to me but nothing happens to you. Nyc and all hog

 

[Benotti69]

Is Armstrong stupid enough to go bullying witnesses and throw away any last shred of deceny that some people still believe. I hope so.

 

[Smera1]

Who's deluca?

Di Luca I guess ?

 

[Anonymous]

Is Armstrong stupid enough to go bullying witnesses and throw away any last shred of deceny that some people still believe. I hope so.

Interesting thing is... It has worked for him his entire adult life.

Hopefully not this time, eh?

 

[MarkvW]

JS. Shorten up the typing. Roger wilco.

Now that's ironic!

 

[Kennf1]

Is Armstrong stupid enough to go bullying witnesses and throw away any last shred of deceny that some people still believe. I hope so.

Seeing as how he did it while a criminal investigation was pending, no reason to think he wouldn't do it now.

 

[Anonymous]

Di Luca I guess ?

Probably.

Somebody ought to PM college to let him know it's usually best to get the spelling right when trying to insult someone.

 

[college]

Who's deluca?

My bad Di Luca . You knew but as per clinic norm you just wanted to call me out.

 

[college]

Do your own heavy lifting junior. The answers are there, but like most of Lance's fans (who share his GED level of edumikation and intelligence), you might need someone to guide you to the answers. I'm cool with that. I was a teacher, so I took an oath to help rid the world of ignorance, so you're welcome ahead of time: Just read this thread again, all the answers about what happens to junkie scum like Lance are there.

Since you insist on calling Lance a junkie scumb then i would like to be able to speak with you on a north clic level. More or less like dealing with ferns in the roller or spin room. Benifits of the fern and all. I am sure you can understand.