USADA - Bruyneel, Celaya, Garcial del Moral, Ferrari, Marti

[ChewbaccaD]

gheez Bruyneel is such a fecker

of course he knows who RR is...they paid weaselly Papp for the info..
BFD....what's he going to do with that

he must think he is pretty suave..not sure what plan he has cooked up but it's prolly a doozy. Going to be interesting for sure..

I love Floyd Landis more each day. I said the day I read the email that he pulled the pin and tossed the grenade. I love a man willing to blow sh!t up...(I didn't mean to sound like the Unibomber...I was speaking figuratively)

 

[mewmewmew13]

I don't think his intention is winning.

I think his intention is to set fire to all those friendly good dopers at Garmin.

Also. I'm not comfortable with JVs crew chastising the defendant. Is that appropriate? Considering his riders are witnesses.

But he's a thug, he will go down. But he wants to blow up the world with him.

I can see him dropping McQuaid into a steaming pile as well.

"Top of the world, Ma!"

 

[mewmewmew13]

I love Floyd Landis more each day. I said the day I read the email that he pulled the pin and tossed the grenade. I love a man willing to blow sh!t up...(I didn't mean to sound like the Unibomber...I was speaking figuratively)

TOTALLY agree

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I don't think his intention is winning.

I think his intention is to set fire to all those friendly good dopers at Garmin.

Also. I'm not comfortable with JVs crew chastising the defendant. Is that appropriate? Considering his riders are witnesses.

But he's a thug, he will go down. But he wants to blow up the world with him.

I can see him dropping McQuaid into a steaming pile as well.

Who on JVs crew 'chastised' Bruyneel?

gheez Bruyneel is such a fecker

of course he knows who RR is...they paid weaselly Papp for the info..
BFD....what's he going to do with that

he must think he is pretty suave..not sure what plan he has cooked up but it's prolly a doozy. Going to be interesting for sure..

To be honest - I think JB is all fur coat and no knickers. I am not expecting much from him accept some self serving BS.

 

[D-Queued]

Ya, and the best part is he deleted that exchange between himself and RR.
I am also delighted to see that Johan says "I know everything" - that rules out him saying he was not part of anything when its time to talk

JB is about as useless at following legal advice as Lance.

I know everything?

Ok, then you are fully and intractably complicit.

Done.

Dave.

 

[thehog]

Who on JVs crew 'chastised' Bruyneel?
To be honest - I think JB is all fur coat and no knickers. I am not expecting much from him accept some self serving BS.

True. But he has a right to a fair hearing.

Those who complained about Armstrong/Bruyneel bullying over the years should not be bullying him with "you can't win" taunts.

Arbitration is not about winning and losing.

Very much the contrary.

Let him speak.

I cast my mind to the Festina trials. Pivotal. Allow due process to play out.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

True. But he has a right to a fair hearing.

Those who complained about Armstrong/Bruyneel bullying over the years should not be bullying him with "you can't win" taunts.

Arbitration is not about winning and losing.

Very much the contrary.

Let him speak.

I cast my mind to the Festina trials. Pivotal. Allow due process to play out.

Ah, so you are back to trolling RR and pretending he is part of JVs crew?

As for JB - he is certainly entitled to a fair hearing and a fair sanction.

 

[thehog]

As for JB - he is certainly entitled to a fair hearing and a fair sanction.

Agreed.

If he's got things to say about the UCI, JV or anyone it should come out in his allotted time.

And yes be should be banned as he will be.

But lets not try and stop him from getting to the court on time.

Important it all comes out.

Agreed.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I'm gettng stocked up on popcorn..

now all of you kids stop the internal bickering

 

[red_flanders]

JB is about as relevant as Fats Domino today, but he evidently believes his words shake the ground.

Agreed. Beggars belief that anyone would waste time trying to antagonize him on Twitter at this point.

 

[thehog]

Agreed. Beggars belief that anyone would waste time trying to antagonize him on Twitter at this point.

Must have invested in the IPO

 

[MarkvW]

Ah, so you are back to trolling RR and pretending he is part of JVs crew?

As for JB - he is certainly entitled to a fair hearing and a fair sanction.

Unwarranted accusation of trolling.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

If you guys are gonna troll RR, leave me the fu*k out of it.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Agreed. Beggars belief that anyone would waste time trying to antagonize him on Twitter at this point.

Well, we know the hog is the ultimate troll and has a thing for RR.
So he makes something up about JV and then gets a response.

It is the only thing they got.

 

[IrishBias]

Where do I find the definition of a troll?

I saw the rules say no trolling. What is a troll?

 

[sittingbison]

stop it or you'll go blind

seriously you lot, give it a rest. PM being sent to culprits

cheers
bison

 

[martinvickers]

JB still thinks he is in the intimidation game with his #evenknowwhoyouare comment to RR...

JB is about as relevant as Fats Domino today, but he evidently believes his words shake the ground. Seeing him go down will in some ways be sweeter than watching Lance fall on his face.

Evidently, JV is responsible for the systematic USPS doping program...

That exchange, in a nutshell, is why I have always despised JB even more than Lance.

Just as much the bully.
Just as much the self-entitlement
Just as much the complete contempt for people and the sport.

I suspect he's going to try and torpedo Garmin as revenge; That's the last game left. Protect Omerta by a demonstration of the price for informers. If Garmin survive it, it might be a useful precedent for the Cookson Commission. If not, the commission's dead on arrival.

IF Lance wants some 'credit' out of the commission, first thing I want to see is complete burial of Bruyneel. Then Lance might just get some lube for his pitchfork.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Well, today's news sort gives it another angle regarding Vaughters.

 

[martinvickers]

Well, today's news sort gives it another angle regarding Vaughters.

Hesjedahl? Not sure it's the shock people think, really. Wait and see, I suppose.

 

[sniper]

Hesjedahl? Not sure it's the shock people think, really. Wait and see, I suppose.

shock to those who got whool pulled over the eyes, have been living in a cave in past decades, or for other reasons saw vaughters as the messias of clean(ER) cycling.
no shock to anybody with half a brain, i,d say.

Thank god dan martin is still clean.

 

[thehog]

shock to those who got whool pulled over the eyes, have been living in a cave in past decades, or for other reasons saw vaughters as the messias of clean(ER) cycling.
no shock to anybody with half a brain, i,d say.

Thank god dan martin is still clean.

More to the point some have danced to the statue of limitations whilst others haven’t.

I think Bruyneel’s anger appears to stem that Vaughters has dodged and weaved a ban whilst Bruyneel is going down for good. Even if Bruyneel received a reduced sentence the hog is going to take everyone down with him.

It’s such a filthy sport and this drama hasn’t even finished yet.

Cookson better get that T&R or whatever it is moving. Fast.

 

[MarkvW]

That exchange, in a nutshell, is why I have always despised JB even more than Lance.

Just as much the bully.
Just as much the self-entitlement
Just as much the complete contempt for people and the sport.

I suspect he's going to try and torpedo Garmin as revenge; That's the last game left. Protect Omerta by a demonstration of the price for informers. If Garmin survive it, it might be a useful precedent for the Cookson Commission. If not, the commission's dead on arrival.

IF Lance wants some 'credit' out of the commission, first thing I want to see is complete burial of Bruyneel. Then Lance might just get some lube for his pitchfork.

What could Bruyeel possibly know about the Garmin team that would hurt JV or the riders? Bruyneel is the furthest thing possible from being a Garmin 'insider.'

 

[Ferminal]

I tend to agree. I doubt he even knows much about his later years, or have anything interesting to say (from a doping perspective) about his time at Leopard.

I'd be far more interested in hearing about the Ferrari empire.

But we are talking about omerta followers for decades here, I think they have more respect for the system than to simply have a go at everyone.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Bruyneel knows that Vaughters doesn't actually know how to operate any Garmin product.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

shock to those who got whool pulled over the eyes, have been living in a cave in past decades, or for other reasons saw vaughters as the messias of clean(ER) cycling.
no shock to anybody with half a brain, i,d say.

Thank god dan martin is still clean.

No shock that you are using something from 10 years ago and attributing it to JV.

Not sure why its in this thread anyway - except that TheHog might have been hoping to use Ryder in his arbitration, if so he has gotten pawned by The Chicken.