Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[webvan]

I think that for Nibali it's going to be Angliru 2013 = Zoncolan 2010...

 

[Red Rick]

I think that for Nibali it's going to be Angliru 2013 = Zoncolan 2011...

Fixed it for you, except that Nibali will have Contador's role and Horner will have Nibali's role. Anton to be Anton

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Honestly, I doubt he will loose the Vuelta. After the restday he will be fine and ready to take down the old man Horner

 

[Red Rick]

Honestly, I doubt he will loose the Vuelta. After the restday he will be fine and ready to take down the old man Horner

Indeed, and Horner also got dropped today, albeit by less riders and with smaller differences

 

[Rollthedice]

Purito said it was again a very hard day, with very fast racing and that in fact was the fourth mountain stage since he also considers Castelldefels, the 13 stage. Everybody was tired. He should be back stronger after the rest day, I don't think he'll crack but it will be some exciting stages ahead.

 

[Jelantik]

Nibali form is improving... So after rest day.. he should be ready to hold of horner.

 

[maxmartin]

Nibali form is improving... So after rest day.. he should be ready to hold of horner.

Holding of Horner is such a low standard for Nibali, he will destroy Horner in Angliru

 

[webvan]

Nibali form is improving... So after rest day.. he should be ready to hold of horner.

Firm improved...then stagnated...now on its way down, not sure the rest day will help much.

 

[SafeBet]

Seems Nibali isn't able to handle multiple mountain stages in a row. 3rd day especially.

Yeah this is spot on. And puts some dark clouds over saturday's Angliru stage. If he's feeling good he should try and gain time on Pena Cabarga.

 

[EnacheV]

So much fighting to defend against a 42y old man. Staying out of TdF was a very wise idea for Nibali, i appreciate his way of building up his career. Smart would be to do the same double again next year, and keep up the "legend" of anti-Froome, but never actually confront him until he is ready and Froome is down on form.

 

[Miburo]

Honestly, I doubt he will loose the Vuelta. After the restday he will be fine and ready to take down the old man Horner

Nibali has that thing you know. He's the kinda guy who will win these close battles.

He'll win the vuelta.

 

[maxmartin]

The Angliru, on the second last stage, is where the Vuelta will almost certainly be won or lost. “It’s a very tough stage, but I don’t think there will be huge time gaps,” Vinokourov asserted, “It’s very hard but I think everybody will race there to defend what they have already got in the bag.

 

[killswitch]

http://velolive.com/velo_name/yaroslav_popovych_giro_2013-tour_2012/5496-yaroslav-popovich-dnevniki-vuelta-ispanii-2013-chast-12.html

thanks to search

И где-то на 80м километре дорога сузилась и уехал отрыв из восьми человек. Нибс остановился пописать, Мувистары снова встали и начали тянуть. Мы подъехали к ним: « Пацаны, вы что, гоните? Где уважение, где респект к лидеру и куче народу, которые остановились на паузу, а вы тяните жестко!? – А нам пофик, мы фигачим!». Итак, весь этап ни разу не остановились на паузу и не притормозили поесть спокойно.

Popo says after Astana has worked hard for over an hour another group of eight got a gap on a narrow road so Nibali stopped for a natural break along with lots of others but Movistar got on the front and pushed the pace. The Shack riders went up to Movi and asked why they weren't respecting the red jersey and the answer was "We don't care" lol. According also to Cameron Wurf's blog Movi rode hard through the feed zone too so that nobody could slow down and eat.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

http://velolive.com/velo_name/yaroslav_popovych_giro_2013-tour_2012/5496-yaroslav-popovich-dnevniki-vuelta-ispanii-2013-chast-12.html

thanks to search


Popo says after Astana has worked hard for over an hour another group of eight got a gap on a narrow road so Nibali stopped for a natural break along with lots of others but Movistar got on the front and pushed the pace. The Shack riders went up to Movi and asked why they weren't respecting the red jersey and the answer was "We don't care" lol. According also to Cameron Wurf's blog Movi rode hard through the feed zone too so that nobody could slow down and eat.

hm... ******bags ey?

 

[*G*K*S*]

The Angliru, on the second last stage, is where the Vuelta will almost certainly be won or lost. “It’s a very tough stage, but I don’t think there will be huge time gaps,” Vinokourov asserted, “It’s very hard but I think everybody will race there to defend what they have already got in the bag.

Really Vino? You're sounding like a *****. What's up with that? Sorry, but Nibs is going down. Horner attacks and wins this race.


P*u*s*s*y

29 seconds, to win, ain't that big of gap.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Really Vino? You're sounding like a *****. What's up with that? Sorry, but Nibs is going down. Horner attacks and wins this race.


P*u*s*s*y

29 seconds, to win, ain't that big of gap.

You should be banned for life amigo

 

[*G*K*S*]

You should be banned for life amigo

Really? Banned...for what? Hurting your feelings...mi...amigo?

 

[roundabout]

hm... ******bags ey?

Not really had they wanted to win the stage.

But they ended up merely putting Herrada in the break.

Vomistar fail.

 

[del1962]

Not really had they wanted to win the stage.

But they ended up merely putting Herrada in the break.

Vomistar fail.

How is it a fail, they put Astana under real pressure and Valverde gined time on Nibali and some though less on Horner

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Not really had they wanted to win the stage.

But they ended up merely putting Herrada in the break.

Vomistar fail.

It was not like Movistar was pushing the pace. Astana did, then they stopped to pee, when Movistar started pushing the pace for no aparent reason excpet to mess with Nibali (and Horner who also stopped) not really very nice, but oh well.

 

[roundabout]

How is it a fail, they put Astana under real pressure and Valverde gined time on Nibali and some though less on Horner

It's a stage that Valverde could have won. I really expected them to keep that 8 rider group within reasonable distance and pounce on the last climb.

Instead they sprinted up the penultimate climb and ended up with 20 people ahead and a team too tired to do a lot on the last climb.

Valverde for a stage from the field was a much better bet than Szmyd/Herrada/Intxausti in the break.

Luckily for them Euskaltel rode for team GC and Nibali was weaker than expected (not sure how much credit they get for this as only Nibali was weak of all the main GC riders).

 

[Afrank]

Really Vino? You're sounding like a *****. What's up with that? Sorry, but Nibs is going down. Horner attacks and wins this race.


P*u*s*s*y

29 seconds, to win, ain't that big of gap.

Sounds to me like he's just calling it how he see's it. Doesn't necessarily mean he will encourage Nibali to ride conservatively and not attack, if he's feeling like he can, I don't think.

What's wrong with thinking others will ride to keep their GC position on Angliru?

 

[maxmartin]

Yesterday, after losing nearly half a minute to his key rivals, Horner and Alejandro Valverde (Movistar), Nibali explained his watts are dropping. The Italian told La Gazzetta dello Sport, “It’s true. I lack about 15 to 20 average watts.”

Nibali, after winning the 2010 Vuelta and placing third in the 2012 Tour de France, had made the Giro d’Italia his focus. Martinelli told Italy’s daily sporting newspaper that Nibali produced 20 watts more in the Giro. He compared the Giro’s Jafferau stage to Saturday’s Andorra stage, which featured similar foul weather and where Nibali produced, on average, around 360 watts.

“It looks scientific but it’s that way,” Martinelli said. He referred to Sky’s method of riding a high pace on the climbs to prevent attacks. “If one knows he can hold 360 watts on the climb, a rival can only [attack] for one or two kilometers, take 50 seconds, but after that, that’s all they can do. I hope that this is not cycling’s future because it’ll be too easy. You sit at the computer and you program it all!”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/09/news/nibalis-watts-dropping-with-vuelta-lead_302367

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

This might very well turn out quite embarassing for us guys.

 

[Eshnar]

This might very well turn out quite embarassing for us guys.

Not even the most die hard fans of Horner would have ever expected this though