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Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

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Vino attacks everyone said:
He is not saying that he hasnt trained this winter now does he :rolleyes:
But if he fails misserably tomorrow he got a pretty decent excuse though :p
If he fails miserably, we can say he's knocked up rather than knocked down, can't we?;)
 
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Nibali finally admitted that he was a little behind with his preparation. Hmm, sounds like Contador last year. It will be quite interesting to see how he plans to be back to his last year form since now he has to play catch-up with Froome. That was Contador's position last year too, playing catch-up all season. I'm afraid the Nibali vs Froome could ended up just a hype. Maybe come TDF, it ends up to be Valverde vs Froome.. :D
 
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Jelantik said:
Nibali finally admitted that he was a little behind with his preparation. Hmm, sounds like Contador last year. It will be quite interesting to see how he plans to be back to his last year form since now he has to play catch-up with Froome. That was Contador's position last year too, playing catch-up all season. I'm afraid the Nibali vs Froome could ended up just a hype. Maybe come TDF, it ends up to be Valverde vs Froome.. :D
At the Tour, Nibali should search for his chances on the cobbles (and that's questionable) and on the downhill finish to Luchon (if I'm right).
We can hope that he'll be equal on the climbs and defend gained on the cobbles and the descent in the tt.
That's how it looks at the moment.
 
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straightjacker said:
At the Tour, Nibali should search for his chances on the cobbles (and that's questionable) and on the downhill finish to Luchon (if I'm right).
We can hope that he'll be equal on the climbs and defend gained on the cobbles and the descent in the tt.
That's how it looks at the moment.

I know it's still a long way to July. But if Nibali wants to exchange sword comes july with Froome, being behind on his winter training isn't a good place to start. Besides, he got some other priority now too. So that might distracts him as well.

Froome was doing great with his winter training last year. And we all see how his form decimated the field all season long all the way to TDF. I hope I am wrong, and Nibali turned around miraculously by the time the tour comes.
 
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Jelantik said:
I know it's still a long way to July. But if Nibali wants to exchange sword comes july with Froome, being behind on his winter training isn't a good place to start. Besides, he got some other priority now too. So that might distracts him as well.

Froome was doing great with his winter training last year. And we all see how his form decimated the field all season long all the way to TDF. I hope I am wrong, and Nibali turned around miraculously by the time the tour comes.
I think that it's obvious to him (Nibali), as it's obvious to me, that the physics is not the field where he should look for his chances against Froome.
Off course, the solid base is a must, but for what he needs current level seems good enough.
 

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With Stannard, Hagen and Thomas, Froome can handle the cobbles stage like a chance to gain time. Nibali will have to attack on the climbs much in July.
 
Froome was doing great with his winter training last year. And we all see how his form decimated the field all season long all the way to TDF. I hope I am wrong, and Nibali turned around miraculously by the time the tour comes.

Froome seems to be one of a kind, peaking all season long until July/August. None of the other contenders can do the same including Nibali.
 
TearMeApart said:
With Stannard, Hagen and Thomas, Froome can handle the cobbles stage like a chance to gain time. Nibali will have to attack on the climbs much in July.

It's not like they can carry him, Froome will actually have to ride the cobbles himself. And I think Nibali is better on cobbles than Froome.
 

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Hugo Koblet said:
It's not like they can carry him, Froome will actually have to ride the cobbles himself. And I think Nibali is better on cobbles than Froome.

Hm, ok, let's assume this. And by means of what Nibali can gain time on the cobbles? To survive in the group of the leaders while Froome drops out of it?
 
TearMeApart said:
Hm, ok, let's assume this. And by means of what Nibali can gain time on the cobbles? To survive in the group of the leaders while Froome drops out of it?

I'm not saying that he will necessarily gain time on Froome on the cobbles. I'm just saying that I don't think he'll lose time as you predicted.
 
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Remember 2010? Consensus was that of the GC guys, Armstrong would be most favoured by the cobbles stage and Cancellara would be helping Andy and Frank limit their losses. Look how that turned out. It's not the most straightforward stage to predict the outcome. There were guys all over the place that day, I'd expect more of the same but it's a bit of a crapshoot trying to predict which GC guy it favours most.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
It's not like they can carry him, Froome will actually have to ride the cobbles himself. And I think Nibali is better on cobbles than Froome.

cobbles unless raced 100% which none gc guy can do probably is meaningless except for being palced wlel and noit crahsing. just look at andy tearing everyone away in that cobbled tour stage in cancellara's wheel
 
will10 said:
Remember 2010? Consensus was that of the GC guys, Armstrong would be most favoured by the cobbles stage and Cancellara would be helping Andy and Frank limit their losses. Look how that turned out. It's not the most straightforward stage to predict the outcome. There were guys all over the place that day, I'd expect more of the same but it's a bit of a crapshoot trying to predict which GC guy it favours most.

Well, the stage went really well for 50% of the Frandy wagon. For the other 50%, it went really bad ;)
 
Today's result

Etapa 5:

1 Christopher FROOME TEAM SKY 3:49:53 Palmarés completo
2 Tejay VAN GARDEREN BMC RACING TEAM 0:00:22
3 Rigoberto URAN URAN OMEGA PHARMA-QUICK STEP 0:00:33
4 Joaquim RODRIGUEZ TEAM KATUSHA 0:00:38
5 Robert GESINK BELKIN PRO CYCLING 0:00:47
6 Domenico POZZOVIVO AG2R LA MONDIALE 0:00:51
7 Arnold JEANNESSON FDJ.FR 0:00:56
8 Romain BARDET AG2R LA MONDIALE 0:00:59
9 Sergio HENAO MONTOYA TEAM SKY 0:01:09
10 Roman KREUZIGER TINKOFF-SAXO 0:01:15
11 Mikel NIEVE ITURRALDE TEAM SKY 0:01:19
12 Kenny ELISSONDE FDJ.FR 0:01:20
13 Johann TSCHOPP IAM CYCLING 0:01:22
14 Daniel MORENO FERNANDEZ TEAM KATUSHA 0:01:24
15 Stef CLEMENT BELKIN PRO CYCLING 0:01:30
16 Vincenzo NIBALI ASTANA PRO TEAM 0:01:45
17 David DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO TEAM NETAPP-ENDURA 0:01:45
18 Thomas LÖVKVIST IAM CYCLING 0:01:48
19 Daryl IMPEY ORICA GREENEDGE 0:01:48
20 Jurgen VAN DEN BROECK LOTTO-BELISOL 0:01:48