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Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

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The Hitch said:
He didn't follow the Saxo train because he was a little behind in the peloton when the split occured leaving Contador in the group ahead.

Echelons are about positioning, and while Froome's positioning wasn't good enough at that stage to keep Contador at bay, it was good enough to ensure that any group that got away would only be getting a small advantage.

Froome makes that mistake again next year, maybe he loses another minute, but the way he rode that stage in this years Tour in no way indicates that he can lose any more than that sort of margin, and in the mountains he can get twice that back on any given stage.

In the end the echelon stage probably helped froome more than it hurt him. Contador was working himself, on one of the hardest stages of the race, while Froome sat back in slipstream all day. When the Ventoux stage came 2 days later, that extra bit in the tank could have been worth more than the minute Contador gained on the flat (not to mention his team).

My point was (and still is) that the possibilites to take time on Froome and Quintana will be there in a gt, so him saying Nibali could never ever ever ever have done better than a third place this year is not really a fair assesment of the case... ;)
 
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Netserk said:
Yep, both Purito and Piti were totally exhausted by the end of the season after being in form during most of it.

Or how did Lombardia go? :rolleyes:

A classic isn't comparable with a GT. It is impossible to win the Vuelta after a 3rd in the Tour. So it was logical that Nibali would be better in that Vuelta, i think he wasn't as good as i suppose. Purito beat him at Naranco, and was better at Formigal.
 
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number0 said:
i remember, jro has never beaten nibali in a gt, i dont see why would reach him in front in the tour 2013

Because they never ridden against each other in normal circumstances. Or Jrod had already a GT in his legs, or Nibbles. The Giro 2011 was the only exception, but Jrod was sick then.

Nibali is the better allrounder, so perhaps the better GT-rider, but in a GT where the route is very hard, and not with that amount of tt, i think there pretty equal, or Jrod slightly better.
 
Afrank said:
When even Vino is worried that it's too risky, there certainly is reason to be worried...

Personally, I really respect his decision to ride, but I don't think it's very wise. There's a higher chance of injury than learning something valuable imo. He should rather spend time practicing on the flat cobble sections they'll do in TDF.
 
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I'm relieved he's riding Flanders and not Roubaix. Unless the weather's awful I don't think the risk is that high at Flanders. He doesn't need to be fighting to hit each climb in the top 20 positions if the goal is to just get round.
 
hfer07 said:
:rolleyes: OMG

Pardon me- Do you even know what took place in 2010 RVV?
For some reason I thought Armstrong was sixth, now I checked it and he finished in the group but way behind. But my point still remains, I can see Nibali finishing in a group that sprints for a top10 place behind the big favourites.
[But yeah I was really far off, I'm sorry for not knowing the results of every race from memorie :rolleyes:]