Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Climbing]

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I re-watched the final and I'll try to sum up what happened from the Eurosport broadcast.

6,5 Km to go - Movistar is in front with three guys, Puccio falls to the right in front of Nibali and takes out an Astana, Tom was slightly behind Nibali to the right and close to that Astana, Giro over. Nibs teleported. (the overhead shots were not shown on Eurosport live, the moment of the crash floats on the internet from L'Equipe TV). On the far right one Jumbo is leading Roglic and a group is formed with the Movis, FdJ, Bora and MS with Yates.

5.7 km to go - While there are replays of the aftermath of crash, we see a thinner front group with Roglic, UAE, Bora and two Movistar and not far two groups chasing.

4.9 km to go – Again replays of the crash, the chase is close to the front group.
4.8 km to go – Dumoulin is shown alone struggling. (most likely during these shots the second crash took place)
4.7 km to go – The front group is on the screen but no sign of the chasers, one Movistar slows down and looks back presumably after Landa who, as we found out later was caught up in the second crash at the roundabout with Yates and Pozzo.
The rest is known. I think Nibali with Caruso were in fact in a third group and caught up with Yates and the others after the second crash.

That's my reading on it as well.
Apparently Pozzo doesn't have anything broken just bruises, good news for Nibbles.

Actually from this morning interview, he got back in the first group after incredibly not going down behind Puccio and that's when the second crash happened.
Again just in front of him, and again incredibly avoided going down, but had to break heavily and came to a stand still.

He ain't particularly happy about Puccio...

Edit: I guess he isn't particularly happy about Koren out as well...

 

[Rollthedice]

Every Grand Tour with Bahrain, except the one where he was taken out on AdH, he loses one teammate very early.

 

[King Boonen]

Heard a rumour it was Antonio behind Puccio, anyone know for sure?

 

[Rollthedice]

No, it was Vincenzo:

"My Giro could have ended there - comments visibly annoyed at the Gazzetta dello Sport - Puccio looks around ... we were going at 65 per hour, maybe even more. He turned back to see where his youngsters were. Only that he crashed half of the group. I was behind him, really close, and I saved myself. I don't even know how [...]"

 

[Red Rick]

So Squalo loses his memory after teleportation. Imortant to know

 

[Rollthedice]

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So Squalo loses his memory after teleportation. Imortant to know

Good point. From the same interview: "Non so che cosa sia successo." - I don't know what happened.

 

[King Boonen]

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No, it was Vincenzo:

"My Giro could have ended there - comments visibly annoyed at the Gazzetta dello Sport - Puccio looks around ... we were going at 65 per hour, maybe even more. He turned back to see where his youngsters were. Only that he crashed half of the group. I was behind him, really close, and I saved myself. I don't even know how [...]"

Thanks.

 

[whittashau]

Koren out of the Giro. Not a lot of big engines on the flat if bahrain is forced to work on the flats

 

[Climbing]

And Caruso had fever yesterday, not the best start for the team.
Edit: and today exploded (after working in the first, I think, not sure) at over 17 min. Hopefully can recover taking it "easy" in the next 4 days.

 

[Rollthedice]

The stage where he could've potentially lose a few seconds to Yates and Roglic went well. Caruso's health is improving, let's keep the hype train on track. The fifth is coming.

 

[Climbing]

Very attentive in the finale, but team nowhere to be seen, though he can usually move alone in these situations.

 

[tobydawq]

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Very attentive in the finale, but team nowhere to be seen, though he can usually move alone in these situations.

Thank god. Imagine if all the helpers of all the leaders had fought for the front positions as well. Luckily, they didn't, which made the finale very not dangerous.

 

[Carols]

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Very attentive in the finale, but team nowhere to be seen, though he can usually move alone in these situations.

Thank god. Imagine if all the helpers of all the leaders had fought for the front positions as well. Luckily, they didn't, which made the finale very not dangerous.

No he didn't need them. But was his team Able to be there is the question. Pozzo was being paced by Agnoli at the very back!

 

[Rollthedice]

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Very attentive in the finale, but team nowhere to be seen, though he can usually move alone in these situations.

Thank god. Imagine if all the helpers of all the leaders had fought for the front positions as well. Luckily, they didn't, which made the finale very not dangerous.

No he didn't need them. But was his team Able to be there is the question. Pozzo was being paced by Agnoli at the very back!

Pozzo has other assignments, Agnoli finished 12th and Antonio was live in Italian TV Giro show after the race. All is well, tomorrow a big day.

 

[Red Rick]

Gonna be an ITT with tired legs tomorrow. Hopefully Nibali benefits from that. Haven't really looked into post restday vs non post restday ITTs from him.

 

[SafeBet]

Meanwhile on the Gavia:

cc: Red Rick

 

[Rollthedice]

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Meanwhile on the Gavia:

cc: Red Rick

On tuttobiciweb.it they say it's 4 meters snow but people are working night and day.

 

[Sestriere]

Agnello flashbacks coming up

 

[Climbing]

Holy Moly !

 

[Salvarani]

It is written in the stars

 

[Rollthedice]

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Gonna be an ITT with tired legs tomorrow. Hopefully Nibali benefits from that. Haven't really looked into post restday vs non post restday ITTs from him.

Don't think it matters since examples are from long ago and he is up against different riders. Optimistically I think he'll lose under one minute to Roglic and gain a few sec on Yates. Worst case would be 1:30 to the ski jumper.

 

[RunningRouleur]

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Gonna be an ITT with tired legs tomorrow. Hopefully Nibali benefits from that. Haven't really looked into post restday vs non post restday ITTs from him.

Don't think it matters since examples are from long ago and he is up against different riders. Optimistically I think he'll lose under one minute to Roglic and gain a few sec on Yates. Worst case would be 1:30 to the ski jumper.

Who's the ski jumper?

 

[Red Rick]

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Gonna be an ITT with tired legs tomorrow. Hopefully Nibali benefits from that. Haven't really looked into post restday vs non post restday ITTs from him.

Don't think it matters since examples are from long ago and he is up against different riders. Optimistically I think he'll lose under one minute to Roglic and gain a few sec on Yates. Worst case would be 1:30 to the ski jumper.

Who's the ski jumper?

Roglic, or at least he used to be.

 

[RunningRouleur]

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Gonna be an ITT with tired legs tomorrow. Hopefully Nibali benefits from that. Haven't really looked into post restday vs non post restday ITTs from him.

Don't think it matters since examples are from long ago and he is up against different riders. Optimistically I think he'll lose under one minute to Roglic and gain a few sec on Yates. Worst case would be 1:30 to the ski jumper.

Who's the ski jumper?

Roglic, or at least he used to be.

I've never heard that, I can't believe TV commentators never talk about it.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Gonna be an ITT with tired legs tomorrow. Hopefully Nibali benefits from that. Haven't really looked into post restday vs non post restday ITTs from him.

Don't think it matters since examples are from long ago and he is up against different riders. Optimistically I think he'll lose under one minute to Roglic and gain a few sec on Yates. Worst case would be 1:30 to the ski jumper.

Who's the ski jumper?