If that Tour had this Giro's field and conditions he'd have won it... would he then have complained about the limited possibilities and the TT mileage? Nibali's racing style fits wherever the competition is weak. Food for thought and endless discussion.Netserk said:Nibali:
“I think I have the same form as I had last year at the Tour, but the Tour is different from the Giro. At the Tour there were fewer possibilities. The finishes were the bottom of hills, there were two time trials totalling 110km. Here the race suits my style.”
Boring and sobbing complainers are boringPentacycle said:If that Tour had this Giro's field and conditions he'd have won it... would he then have complained about the limited possibilities and the TT mileage? Nibali's racing style fits wherever the competition is weak. Food for thought and endless discussion.
Why shouldn't I complain? It's boring to do so, but it's not as dull as Nibali nowadays. He should at least win a stage, or at least act like he's trying to do so.Vino attacks everyone said:Boring and sobbing complainers are boring![]()
Can't we just wait and see what happens in the rest of the Giro before we start whining about it. Nibali has no reason to attack at this point. He didn't even need to attack yesterday but did. Maybe he will in later mountain stages. I think there is a good chance of that. Lets just wait and see how the rest of the race unfolds before we wright off the whole Giro as a bad race.LaFlorecita said:Probably, but it would not be such a great stage win IMO. A solo win on a MTF, in the snow, now that would be epic. I forget about Alberto's MTT win in the 2011 edition all the time. I only remember Etna because it was epic.
In 10 years, when I think of the 2013 Giro, I want to remember the eventual winner emerging from the fog to win the stage in the snow, soloI like Visconti and I am happy he won, but it won't be what I'll remember. I'll remember this as the edition there was barely any action on the MTFs
OR something big must happen on stage 19 or 20.
Good photos Max. The scenery of the Tour and Vuelta can't compare to the Giro.maxmartin said:just epic
It was the customary---my legs are good dig--just to tell them don't attack, I'm goodLaFlorecita said:That acceleration was ridiculous. Everyone could follow.
LaFlorecita said:So people can be disappointed by that, right?
That will always happen. You gotta face Froome and Contador in order that this talk won't happen.SafeBet said:I knew that since Wiggo and Hesjedal abandoned I'd have to read once again the usual BS about Nibali always performing well when the field is weak.
Entering the race most people agreed this was the strongest field we've seen here in recent years. Out of the last 7 GTs, 5 have been won by riders who entered this Giro (6 if you count Scarponi). What more do you want?
Pentacycle said:If that Tour had this Giro's field and conditions he'd have won it... would he then have complained about the limited possibilities and the TT mileage? Nibali's racing style fits wherever the competition is weak. Food for thought and endless discussion.
Completely agree. Not saying Nibali is a bad rider. But only when the field is weak he is by far the strongest. If he's not the strongest uphill or in the tt, he has to attack on hilly stages like in TA. Now that he's got this race in the bag he's boring as hell. A weak half-hearted attack won't change that.Pentacycle said:Why shouldn't I complain? It's boring to do so, but it's not as dull as Nibali nowadays. He should at least win a stage, or at least act like he's trying to do so.
If that was a my-legs-are-good-dig, I would've attacked him for sure. Didn't seem that strong.Carols said:It was the customary---my legs are good dig--just to tell them don't attack, I'm good![]()
Nibali himselfSafeBet said:I knew that since Wiggo and Hesjedal abandoned I'd have to read once again the usual BS about Nibali always performing well when the field is weak.
Entering the race most people agreed this was the strongest field we've seen here in recent years. Out of the last 7 GTs, 5 have been won by riders who entered this Giro (6 if you count Scarponi). What more do you want?
It's easy to say that while you are sitting at a desk.LaFlorecita said:If that was a my-legs-are-good-dig, I would've attacked him for sure. Didn't seem that strong.![]()
Stop with that ridiculous argument. Attack the points of the poster which isn't really hard btw in this case instead of going ad hominem.Fausto said:It's easy to say that while you are sitting at a desk.
The typical arrogance of people in this forum.
The field is not determined by palmares, it's the current form that counts. Among most pre-Giro favourites the latter is lacking. It's what could've been expected after the first week and the weather.SafeBet said:I knew that since Wiggo and Hesjedal abandoned I'd have to read once again the usual BS about Nibali always performing well when the field is weak.
Entering the race most people agreed this was the strongest field we've seen here in recent years. Out of the last 7 GTs, 5 have been won by riders who entered this Giro (6 if you count Scarponi). What more do you want?
Yup. Froome and Bert are focussing on the Tour, as the top guys tend to do. Who are the fantastic GC riders that would make the field good enough for people? The simple truth is that Nibali happens to be top boy atm.SafeBet said:I knew that since Wiggo and Hesjedal abandoned I'd have to read once again the usual BS about Nibali always performing well when the field is weak.
Entering the race most people agreed this was the strongest field we've seen here in recent years. Out of the last 7 GTs, 5 have been won by riders who entered this Giro (6 if you count Scarponi). What more do you want?
It's good that there's a tough GT like this Giro that might be won be a second rate rider. Nice that the true first rate riders give the "also rans" a chance now and again.taiwan said:Yup. Froome and Bert are focussing on the Tour, as the top guys tend to do. Who are the fantastic GC riders that would make the field good enough for people? The simple truth is that Nibali happens to be top boy atm.
Full of yourself as usual, it's usless to deal with a pumped ego, just a wasting of time.Miburo said:Stop with that ridiculous argument. Attack the points of the poster which isn't really hard btw in this case instead of going ad hominem.
Yea, stop it. No personal attacks please.Fausto said:Full of yourself as usual, it's usless to deal with a pumped ego, just a wasting of time.
I bet you never ran a race. I think I'll stop here.
Carry on - who are these first rate guys who would won if they showed up?armchairclimber said:It's good that there's a tough GT like this Giro that might be won be a second rate rider. Nice that the true first rate riders give the "also rans" a chance now and again.
By some people definitions there are only 2 first rate riders for gc: Froome and AC, and guess what Nibali has beaten both of them this year.taiwan said:Carry on - who are these first rate guys who would won if they showed up?