Big Doopie
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:A full ten seconds on Konig? Must be a big doopie.
nice. like it.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:A full ten seconds on Konig? Must be a big doopie.
sniper said:vinokourov ****ting on the porch of clean cycling.
lovely.
Krebs cycle said:Dauphine vs Tdf....
Jurgen VDB takes time out of Nibali on three stages. Romain Bardet does also (although at least of those was due to being in the break). Contador is also clearly in better form than Nibali at this stage
One month later, Nibali is at the same level as Contador and is taking minutes out of both JVDB and Bardet on every climb and is able to drop Contador + multiple winners and podium placers of Paris-Roubaix/Tour of Flanders over the cobbles.
So either Nibali got his tdf prep perfect, Contador did not improve and JVDB totally stuffed his up and has gone backwards, or something else can explain Nibali's rather sharp increase in performance in one month relative to others whom also raced the Dauphine.
hrotha said:The interesting thing about Nibali is that he completely changed his approach this season. While in previous seasons he'd be competitive the whole year and be close to his top form from Tirreno all the way through the Giro and then from the Vuelta to the WC, apparently this year he went for a super peak for the Tour only. Vino's letter might suggest that wasn't part of the plan, at least as far as the team is concerned, but then again it could be meaningless.
Considering how strong Nibali was last year already, I wonder what'd make him change his approach this season. Different kind of program? Whatever it was, it seems to have worked, although it's hard to say how much stronger than 2013 Giro Nibali he is right now, if at all.
We don't have a lot of hard data to compare yet. Today was really the first set, and considering how the climb was ridden and comparing it to that ITT, it does make you rise an eyebrow even ignoring Nibali's (and Astana's) previous history.
maxmartin said:training in the dAuphine, seven is solid. Before sky inventing peaking all year around, most serious tour contenders are taking dauphine easy.
hrotha said:The interesting thing about Nibali is that he completely changed his approach this season. While in previous seasons he'd be competitive the whole year and be close to his top form from Tirreno all the way through the Giro and then from the Vuelta to the WC, apparently this year he went for a super peak for the Tour only. Vino's letter might suggest that wasn't part of the plan, at least as far as the team is concerned, but then again it could be meaningless.
Considering how strong Nibali was last year already, I wonder what'd make him change his approach this season. Different kind of program? Whatever it was, it seems to have worked, although it's hard to say how much stronger than 2013 Giro Nibali he is right now, if at all.
We don't have a lot of hard data to compare yet. Today was really the first set, and considering how the climb was ridden and comparing it to that ITT, it does make you rise an eyebrow even ignoring Nibali's (and Astana's) previous history.
Krebs cycle said:Dauphine vs Tdf....
Jurgen VDB takes time out of Nibali on three stages. Romain Bardet does also (although at least of those was due to being in the break). Contador is also clearly in better form than Nibali at this stage
One month later, Nibali is at the same level as Contador and is taking minutes out of both JVDB and Bardet on every climb and is able to drop Contador + multiple winners and podium placers of Paris-Roubaix/Tour of Flanders over the cobbles.
So either Nibali got his tdf prep perfect, Contador did not improve and JVDB totally stuffed his up and has gone backwards, or something else can explain Nibali's rather sharp increase in performance in one month relative to others whom also raced the Dauphine.
Dear Wiggo said:Nibali cruised across the line after beating everyone to the top. He did not look stressed at all.
Training ride.
Stage 8. Where Contador on the other hand looked like he held back, despite being the one on the front for more than half of the climb.SundayRider said:The only time he has looked remotely fatigued was when Contador gapped him for a few seconds on what stage 6?
maxmartin said:training in the dAuphine, seven is solid. Before sky inventing peaking all year around, most serious tour contenders are taking dauphine easy.
hrotha said:The interesting thing about Nibali is that he completely changed his approach this season. While in previous seasons he'd be competitive the whole year and be close to his top form from Tirreno all the way through the Giro and then from the Vuelta to the WC, apparently this year he went for a super peak for the Tour only. Vino's letter might suggest that wasn't part of the plan, at least as far as the team is concerned, but then again it could be meaningless.
Considering how strong Nibali was last year already, I wonder what'd make him change his approach this season. Different kind of program? Whatever it was, it seems to have worked, although it's hard to say how much stronger than 2013 Giro Nibali he is right now, if at all.
We don't have a lot of hard data to compare yet. Today was really the first set, and considering how the climb was ridden and comparing it to that ITT, it does make you rise an eyebrow even ignoring Nibali's (and Astana's) previous history.
Cycle Chic said:Maybe theres an explanation for Froomes irritated tweet about Tenerife and no testing,....... Contador and Nibali riding full ***. Looks like they,ve found out what Sky are / were on.