Vincenzo Nibali

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May 26, 2010
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Vino attacks everyone said:
You people, riding your bikes 5 hours a week just can't handle that someone out there is better than you without doping can you? :rolleyes:

This is my body, and I can do whatever I want to it. I can push it; Study it; Tweak it; Listen to it. Everybody wants to know what I am on. What am I on? I am on my bike busting my *** six hours a day; What are YOU on?:D
 
I wouldn't put my hands on the fire for Nibali, just like I don't do for anyone else but this Tour doesn't prove or suggest anything. I mean he's beating good riders but Peraud is like 40, Valverde looks old and Pinot isn't exactly a proven GT rider. The 7 minute gap would've been there as well if Froome or Contador were in the race. The only thing that could change were the race dynamics but the outcome of Nibali vs. The Others would be more or less the same.
If he's doping (and although he's been to greedy for my taste these last weeks), I hope he doesn't get caught because.....I like him :D
 
Sep 30, 2010
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Benotti69 said:
9% is a big improvement from aged 24. Too much to be au natural....

It's more than 9% though? You're calculating against a theoretical possible time of 0'00". If for example we assumed that the fastest possible time with the perfect human specimen was 30mins, then the improvement would be about 30%.
 
Jul 21, 2012
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BYOP88 said:
Classic fan boy replies:

1)Tailwind.

2)Shorter/easier route this time

3)Less climbs this time

and so on........

:D

Tailwind: 1%
Pretending Horner was better: 1%
Washing hands: 1%
Adjusted seat bolts: 1%
Rounder wheels: 1%
4 hour ride without powermeter: 1%
no coffee: 1%
working hard: 1%
better massage gel: 1%

total 9%. Maybe Nibali is just a man of constant marginal gains.
 
the sceptic said:
Tailwind: 1%
Pretending Horner was better: 1%
Washing hands: 1%
Adjusted seat bolts: 1%
Rounder wheels: 1%
4 hour ride without powermeter: 1%
no coffee: 1%
working hard: 1%
better massage gel: 1%

total 9%. Maybe Nibali is just a man of constant marginal gains.

LOL!

Rounder wheels wins it! :)
 
Sep 29, 2012
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Jeesus, I just watched today's stage.

And we have been making fun of Froomie's seated accelerations.


Dear lord. I think I'm just going have to quit watching.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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purcell said:
Jeesus, I just watched today's stage.

And we have been making fun of Froomie's seated accelerations.


Dear lord. I think I'm just going have to quit watching.

If you can't watch a TdF stage for the scenery then yeah, I do wonder what enjoyment you would get.
 
Oct 16, 2010
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purcell said:
Jeesus, I just watched today's stage.

And we have been making fun of Froomie's seated accelerations.


Dear lord. I think I'm just going have to quit watching.
nibbles doing a froome on nieve was fun though.
 
BYOP88 said:
Classic fan boy replies:

1)Tailwind.

2)Shorter/easier route this time

3)Less climbs this time

and so on........

:D

Yeah...the usual excuses.

And then the reality strikes back:

1) Headwind (according to both Valverde and Lemond)

2) 2014 was harder than 1996, which was just flat before Hautacam. About the same as 2000 that had HC climbing also before Hautacam. And today this stage was at the end of the tour, being the third mountain stage ridden within 3 days.

3) The stage had about the same amount of climbing km's as in 2000 and 3 times more than 1996. Overall 2014 TdF has had 6 mountain stages. 1996 had only 4. 2000 had 5.

and so on......

I guess next they start to claim that human race have evolved in the past decade so much, that they can now cycle clean as fast as dopers then. :rolleyes: Or something else as silly as that, just to keep their fantasy of clean cycling alive. The cognitive dissonance is causing them such nasty stress and discomfort right now.
 
Benotti69 said:
9% is a big improvement from aged 24. Too much to be au natural....

anyone who draws conclusions from two data points needs to go and read up on stats.

There's plenty of info out there without desperately clawing onto this to prove your point.
 
Jul 5, 2011
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Gonzo424 said:
I think there will be more entertainment come Saturday, when Nibali bests Tony Martin in the ITT.

That's when I switch to pro wrestling to witness noble human endeavour at its finest.
 
Motorised bike

At 8kms, when he overtook Horner, Nibali's acceleration looked like his legs couldnt keep up with the pedals....cadence went haywire. Just like Froome.

Motorised bike ??

Compared to Majka - he had steady cadence throughout and it looked normal.

And you dont see contador accelerating like that - it just doesnt look right.
 
Jul 19, 2009
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JimmyFingers said:
And lo the tales of motors in the bikes begins again

With a confortable 6mn lead, Nibali would have been crazy to use it, at the top his bike coud have been controlled.
 
Jul 7, 2014
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poupou said:
With a confortable 6mn lead, Nibali would have been crazy to use it, at the top his bike coud have been controlled.

I am pretty sure they check the bike of all the stage winners.
 
Sep 20, 2009
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purcell said:
Jeesus, I just watched today's stage.

And we have been making fun of Froomie's seated accelerations.


Dear lord. I think I'm just going have to quit watching.

Good idea, Also stop posting on this website and you will make many people happy! If you can take the other tossers with you life will be good!
 
Jul 17, 2012
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Cycle Chic said:
why do you say that ? if the UCI check the bikes it is obviously happening.

It's possible, so they get checked, but you did this last year for ages about Froome, and similar accusations have been thrown at Cancellara, but its uetter speculation. Has anyone in the pro-tour EVER been caught with a motor in their bike? I know its possible, but its also highly improbable.
 
Oct 16, 2010
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JimmyFingers said:
It's possible, so they get checked, but you did this last year for ages about Froome, and similar accusations have been thrown at Cancellara, but its uetter speculation. Has anyone in the pro-tour EVER been caught with a motor in their bike? I know its possible, but its also highly improbable.
we would surely not be hearing about it.