Vino Comeback Thread

[Potomac]

Vino was phone!

 

[beer_thirty]

Watched the Basque replay off steephill tv.

WOW! Vino looks great; super strong attack for sure, but then making it stick and holding off the group on that terrain was a great performance. LBL here he comes! Exciting.

Funny how the Basque commentators were chuckling about Seeldraeyers; "Una caida en la subida..hehehehehe". Funny stuff.

 

[Oldman]

Watched the Basque replay off steephill tv.

WOW! Vino looks great; super strong attack for sure, but then making it stick and holding off the group on that terrain was a great performance. LBL here he comes! Exciting.

Funny how the Basque commentators were chuckling about Seeldraeyers; "Una caida en la subida..hehehehehe". Funny stuff.

The US commentators echoed my thoughts: "55 kph for the last 4 km to hold off the field after 115 miles. Wow!" They didn't look totally convinced...

 

[gregrowlerson]

Great to see Vino back to his best. Was thinking that this season might have been a bit of a fizzer for him, but he's shown that he still has the legs. Cycling is always entertaining when he is in the mix.

 

[CatsNK]

The Universal sports guys were great - they were nearly flabbergasted by Vino. At the wrap-up they were really singing his praises - it was nice. Gogo was very impressed!

 

[JA.Tri]

Romandie

Another good result for Vino and well deserved.

His determination and drive to succeed, result in his really animating races. So although an ordinary parcours (as apparently indicated by Tour Director*)...we were fortunate to see some fantastic racing.

Was also great to see Tony Martin podium as he also made a great contribution to the racing.

I thought: Vino is going to do something "outrageous", right to the end of the last stage.

With the lapse on the part of the "top teams" in Stage 1, I was thinking ..."sad"..."race may be gone". However I look back and think, this all contributed to a great spectacle, with TM and AV contributing some real zing!!!



*so why on Earth design an innocuous parcours...TDirector has indicted the TdR heads for the high mountains next year????

 

[CatsNK]

It was exciting. The last stage had me holding my breath, but, oh well.

On the astanafans site Vino is saying he hopes to wear yellow a few days at the TdF. That would be a great outcome.

 

[markene2]

Vinokourov might retire at the end of the Tour this year.

http://astanafans.com/vino-smenit-sedlo-na-kreslo.html#more-51033

 

[Parrulo]

Vinokourov might retire at the end of the Tour this year.

http://astanafans.com/vino-smenit-sedlo-na-kreslo.html#more-51033

i think that was expected tbh.

tho i must say i was hoping for him to have a go at the GdL as his last race. the race of the falling leafs as the last race of rider seems very fitting to me

 

[thirteen]

i think that was expected tbh.

tho i must say i was hoping for him to have a go at the GdL as his last race. the race of the falling leafs as the last race of rider seems very fitting to me

i agree, very fitting...

but then i'm greedy and don't want him to retire yet

 

[joe_papp]

Vino in Spanish Translated to English via Google = Wine

Vinokourov might retire at the end of the Tour this year.

http://astanafans.com/vino-smenit-sedlo-na-kreslo.html#more-51033

Translation:

"Leader of the bicycle club of the capital, Astana, Alexander Vinokourov after the upcoming Tour de France, will probably take the post of chief manager of the club.

About this during a meeting with reporters after the Giro d'Italia said the managing director of fund SK Darkhan Kaletayev. Alexandre Vinokourov - Astana bicycle club leader. A native of North-Kazakhstan region. He stood at the origins of the club. Team captain. Worldwide among fans of cycling is known by the nickname "Vino" - from the name.

Alexander in his career became the winners of the prestigious races like the Giro d'Italia, Paris Nice, Tour de France, Vuelta. He - the world championship bronze medalist, silver medalist of the Sydney 2000 Olympics. And was also a black bar - the doping scandal.

At the moment, Vinokourov is preparing for his last race in the sporting career - the big loop. After the Tour de France and famous racer decides. But will it be the club's manager or enter the administrative board of the national federations - will be known after the finale on the Champs Elysees."

Great to see Vino back to his best. Was thinking that this season might have been a bit of a fizzer for him, but he's shown that he still has the legs. Cycling is always entertaining when he is in the mix.

I have to say I agree 100% w/ you that cycling is entertaining when Vino/Wine is in the mix, and I will defend him until the final red kite of his career as long as he doesn't get caught doping again. I have no room for the sanctimonious anti-doping zealots who protest against the sport and individual riders as if they were anti-abortionists getting ready to bomb a reproductive health clinic (why watch cycling if it upsets one so much?) - the ones who couldn't, who wouldn't, enjoy watching Vino win LBL or his Tour stage... Vino is a class, class rider and cycling is richer for having him still compete. He'll be a masterful director and one who I'm sure will attract a certain breed of talented neoprofessionals who come to the sport w/ total dedication and focus.

ciao!

 

[Ferminal]

Wow, can't imagine cycling without Vino Was so good to see him back at the end of 2009.

 

[joe_papp]

Wow, can't imagine cycling without Vino Was so good to see him back at the end of 2009.

It was marvelous that he returned, and returned at the top - showing in part (should you be inclined to see it this way) that, while doping helps a lot, it doesn't replace class, genetic potential and raw talent. Vino is Vino and he wins because he always has - he's always been a highly-talented winner. In the case of Vino, doping didn't transform him from packhorse into thoroughbred. He had the potential to be a thoroughbred from the moment he was squirted out of his mother's Soviet womb...w/o that natural talent, all of the EPO wouldn't be enough to transform a middling worker into a superstar one-day and stage winner (+ shorter stage races but no GT's).

 

[Zweistein]

It was marvelous that he returned, and returned at the top - showing in part (should you be inclined to see it this way) that, while doping helps a lot, it doesn't replace class, genetic potential and raw talent. Vino is Vino and he wins because he always has - he's always been a highly-talented winner. In the case of Vino, doping didn't transform him from packhorse into thoroughbred. He had the potential to be a thoroughbred from the moment he was squirted out of his mother's Soviet womb...w/o that natural talent, all of the EPO wouldn't be enough to transform a middling worker into a superstar one-day and stage winner (+ shorter stage races but no GT's).

I can think of 20 cases off of the top of my head were after someone as busted, they lost their edge. To say that he is no longer doping, is just a guess. A big guess at that. In all likelyhood, he just toned it down some like many others in the peloton.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Let's cool it with the doping talk, please. TAke that aspect of things into the Clinic.

Thanks.

Susan

 

[CatsNK]

Retiring in July? Say it isn't so, Vino.

Anyone who can post the Facebook pic of Vino sleeping with the yellow jersey? Great picture.

 

[PedalCastro]

The sooner Vino is gone from the peleton, the better - The Clinic!

 

[thirteen]

The sooner Vino is gone from the peleton, the better - The Clinic!

so post there -- not in this thread! this thread is for fans.

Retiring in July? Say it isn't so, Vino.

Anyone who can post the Facebook pic of Vino sleeping with the yellow jersey? Great picture.

i know (insert sad face as i'm over quota by quoting you).

i've never seen that pic (not on Facebook)... i'd love to, though, if anybody finds it...

 

[markene2]

Here you go!

 

[thirteen]

Here you go!

oh wow! thank you!!!

 

[Zweistein]

so post there -- not in this thread! this thread is for fans.



i know (insert sad face as i'm over quota by quoting you).

i've never seen that pic (not on Facebook)... i'd love to, though, if anybody finds it...

Why do other dopers threads get sent to the clinic but not Vino? Vino is as dirty as any rider you can name.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Perhaps because people want to discuss the non-doping aspects of Vino?

Feel free to open a thread in the clinic if you want to discuss doping. Any further doping mentions in this thread will be deleted.

Thank you.

Susan

 

[CatsNK]

Thank you for posting the picture! It makes me want to climb right in there with him. Ahem.

 

[lancaster]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/criterium-du-dauphine-upt/stage-3/photos/177077

flair setup, love the wheels.
the man looks good in yellow!

 

[Granville57]

also interesting that half of the posts in this topic come from people I have ignored, should I perhaps reconsider ignoring them?

Well, considering that at the time of your post there had only been 7 unique posters and two of them have since become mods...

"I'll say yes."