Vuelta '20: Stage 1: Irún - Arrate. Eibar (10/20/2020)

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and he will probably decide today to be domestique again.

it is what it is. On to next year for our Dumo fans. Not much to enjoy here. Well unless you're also a roglic fan. but i aint
I hope not. Kuss looked stronger than Roglic today and there is also Bennett who looked better today than TDF. I wonder if they will try to keep one of them in contention but neither of them has a decent TT for GC.
Yes, next year I'm really hopeful he will have the time to come stronger. I don't mind Roglic winning but he already got a lot this year. I wanted Dumo to at least get the podium.
 
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It does tend to favor their type of riders. At the same time, Movistar had a poor buildup to the TdF and came into it out of sorts. They looked pretty strong by the third week with Mas in the front group and Valverde up there around the front and Soler and Verona in just about every break.
Yeah, but when Contador retired - and Landa almost completed his transformation into a meme - it looked like all doom and gloom for GT win, while France were hyped up with real and fake promises, and Aru or even Nibali still looked very reliable.
 
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I posted earlier that the way the stages are structured that strong GC teams will ride hard until the ITT because the last week is easier than the first two weeks - So expect more attacking racing and be patient in waiting for a breakaway.
I didn't watch the stage -- have to get some work done this fall -- but my initial thought was why would Roglic go for red so early? Let someone else take the jersey for a while etc. Right now he's just consigned Dumoulin to domestique duty. Maybe that's where TD is at this year but already we've got a situation similar to the TdF, where Roglic might be just taking 6 seconds here and 4 seconds there but not delivering a knockout blow.
 
I didn't watch the stage -- have to get some work done this fall -- but my initial thought was why would Roglic go for red so early? Let someone else take the jersey for a while etc. Right now he's just consigned Dumoulin to domestique duty. Maybe that's where TD is at this year but already we've got a situation similar to the TdF, where Roglic might be just taking 6 seconds here and 4 seconds there but not delivering a knockout blow.
I think the only one who ever delivered a knockout blow on this climb was Contador in 2009.

I think Roglic rode very smartly today, fwiw.
 
I didn't watch the stage -- have to get some work done this fall -- but my initial thought was why would Roglic go for red so early? Let someone else take the jersey for a while etc. Right now he's just consigned Dumoulin to domestique duty. Maybe that's where TD is at this year but already we've got a situation similar to the TdF, where Roglic might be just taking 6 seconds here and 4 seconds there but not delivering a knockout blow.
This supposed strategy could also bite him in the end, all the same. Since taking seconds could also be all the buffer you need to win the whole thing.
 
It is. But tbf for Giro they had some good names at the start as well but they dropped. If Roglic, Carapaz and Mas drop tomorrow, you will get the same GC field as Giro quality wise. Dan Martin red jersey, basically another Kelderman.
It has Roglič, these days you don't really get bigger than that. But anyway I think Vuelta tends to always have more big name leaders recently than the Giro, just normally in much shittier forms.
 
I didn't watch the stage -- have to get some work done this fall -- but my initial thought was why would Roglic go for red so early? Let someone else take the jersey for a while etc. Right now he's just consigned Dumoulin to domestique duty. Maybe that's where TD is at this year but already we've got a situation similar to the TdF, where Roglic might be just taking 6 seconds here and 4 seconds there but not delivering a knockout blow.
Im not sure how Roglic was supposed to put significant time into the best there. Putting almost a minute into all but six opponents is better than can really have been expected. Its a hard climb, but it’s short.

Maybe he will continue with his quite conservative approach of trying for small late gaps on stages where more is possible. Maybe he won’t. If he does and if he doesn’t just run out of form and crack then there would still have to be someone capable of Pogacaring him for it to bite him in the rear. I suspect that he’s more worried about the running out of form option than about an out of nowhere amazing performance from one of his close rivals.
 
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I didn't watch the stage -- have to get some work done this fall -- but my initial thought was why would Roglic go for red so early? Let someone else take the jersey for a while etc. Right now he's just consigned Dumoulin to domestique duty. Maybe that's where TD is at this year but already we've got a situation similar to the TdF, where Roglic might be just taking 6 seconds here and 4 seconds there but not delivering a knockout blow.
He might let it go a nonthreatening GC rider in a break in the next few days... Who knows;)
 
I know he is a GT winner but what made Carapaz look any better than the other guys who finished +1 ?
Perceived strength + pedigree + team + route suitability, IMO, indicate Carapaz is a big favorite along with Roglic

I love the Mas love, but nothing he has done indicates to me that he will take on Roglic and Carapaz. For all the talk of him as the new Contador, he never attacks, just holds wheels. Roglic and Carapaz are proven attackers. Sure, Roglic hasn't attacked from far (lately), but both he and Carapaz have taken wins with big attacks in GTs. Mas, just floats along.
 

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