Vuelta 2018 Stage 5:Granada - Roquetas de Mar 188.7km

[Gigs_98]

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As usual in the Vuelta, I would expect the stage to be harder than the profile looks (although it doesn't look that easy to me anyway). Neither Sagan nor Viviani or Bouhanni will win this.

Are vuelta stages reallly harder than they look on profile? Isn't that more of a giro thing?

 

[Robert5091]

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As usual in the Vuelta, I would expect the stage to be harder than the profile looks (although it doesn't look that easy to me anyway). Neither Sagan nor Viviani or Bouhanni will win this.

Are vuelta stages reallly harder than they look on profile? Isn't that more of a giro thing?

I would say to not trust the Cat system but check the length & gradient. If this was the TdF there'd be 50 Cat 4 climbs on every stage ...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

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Probably a break. If it's another hot day the bunch will probably do what they did yesterday.

Gain 6 minutes in the last 15km, and get whittled down to about 20 riders: that would be interesting on today's route.

 

[movingtarget]

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Probably a break. If it's another hot day the bunch will probably do what they did yesterday.

Gain 6 minutes in the last 15km, and get whittled down to about 20 riders: that would be interesting on today's route.

No I mean switch off for a large part of the day. Although the more extreme examples are on the long flat stages.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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As usual in the Vuelta, I would expect the stage to be harder than the profile looks (although it doesn't look that easy to me anyway). Neither Sagan nor Viviani or Bouhanni will win this.

Are vuelta stages reallly harder than they look on profile? Isn't that more of a giro thing?

It's not like the profiles are wrong, but Spanish roads are hardly ever truly flat, which means there are often many "hidden" climbing meters. As a result the stages are often harder than they seem on paper.

 

[Red Rick]

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As usual in the Vuelta, I would expect the stage to be harder than the profile looks (although it doesn't look that easy to me anyway). Neither Sagan nor Viviani or Bouhanni will win this.

Are vuelta stages reallly harder than they look on profile? Isn't that more of a giro thing?

It's not like the profiles are wrong, but Spanish roads are hardly ever truly flat, which means there are often many "hidden" climbing meters. As a result the stages are often harder than they seem on paper.

And I wish they'd just use the same program for the profiles of all WT races. Would be so much better.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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As usual in the Vuelta, I would expect the stage to be harder than the profile looks (although it doesn't look that easy to me anyway). Neither Sagan nor Viviani or Bouhanni will win this.

Are vuelta stages reallly harder than they look on profile? Isn't that more of a giro thing?

It's not like the profiles are wrong, but Spanish roads are hardly ever truly flat, which means there are often many "hidden" climbing meters. As a result the stages are often harder than they seem on paper.

And I wish they'd just use the same program for the profiles of all WT races. Would be so much better.

Nah, it'd make no sense to use the same type of profile for the northern classics and the GTs. In some cases you want the small bumps to be exaggerated but in most other cases, they are practically irrelevant. And I like that each GT has their own style of profiles.

 

[Squire]

Typical stage that used to be won by some random Caisse d'Epargne rider a la Lastras, Moreno or Erviti from a 12-15 man break, and the type that Albasini has won a bunch of.

 

[Laplaz]

After 30km still no break

 

[Velolover2]

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After 30km still no break

Hard pace in the peloton?

 

[Red Rick]

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After 30km still no break

Hard pace in the peloton?

I guess. It's mostly downhill all the way until 50km now, after whcih there's a very steep big coming, followed by more uphill terrain, so I expect the break to go there.

 

[HelloDolly]

NIbali attacked

 

[Red Rick]

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NIbali attacked

GET HYYYPPE

 

[HelloDolly]

No break yet and only 70 riders left in the peloton ...imagine many sprinters dropped

 

[Robert5091]

"After 56km of hard racing, there are only 70 riders left in the bunch. The attackers have been caught."

 

[Laplaz]

Brutal start here, reminds me of many Giro stages this year.

 

[Red Rick]

And stages like these are why the Vuelta and Giro are way cooler races than the Bore de France and are likely to stay that way

 

[HelloDolly]

Fro some reason Aru is chasing the breakaway

 

[HelloDolly]

I think we have a break of 22 riders now

 

[Flamin]

No sign of Benoot or Teuns again. Strange.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Brent Bookwalter, Alessandro De Marchi (BMC)
Lukas Pöstlberger (Bora)
Maxime Monfort (Lotto Soudal)
Rudy Molard (Groupama-FDJ)
Stéphane Rossetto (Cofidis)
Valerio Conti (UAE)
Floris De Tier, Sepp Kuss (LottoNL-Jumbo)
Matteo Trentin (Mitchelton-Scott)
Gianluca Brambilla, Bauke Mollema (Trek)
Mikel Iturria (Euskadi-Murias)
Franco Pellizotti, Hermann Pernsteiner (Bahrain-Merida)
Alexandre Geniez (AG2R)
Davide Villela (Astana)
Jonathan Lastra (Caja Rujal)
Andrey Amador (Movistar)
Jai Hindley (Sunweb)
José Mendes (Burgos-BH)
Simon Clarke (EF-Drapac)
Merhawi Kudus (Dimension Data)
Maurits Lammertink, Pavel Kochetkov (Katusha)

 

[wirral]

Rudy Molard might not win the stage but he may well get the leader's jersey.

 

[Laplaz]

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Trentin is in the break, if they are allowed to stay away and it comes down to a sprint finish, he would be my pick
Bauke Mollema is in there, proper climber capable of a breakaway on the final climb. With Mollema 9 minutes back on the red jersey, so that kind of puts an upper limit on the amount of time the peloton would allow to string out here

Molard and Pernsteiner are only at around 4 minutes...

 

[Lexman]

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No sign of Benoot or Teuns again. Strange.

indeed this is a kind of stage they could try to win...

no doubt the same excuses as always : too hot, bad legs, ...

even Lambrecht could have tried to go with the attackers...

 

[King Boonen]

I don't think Sky would be at all unhappy to lose the jersey. If MK, or another Sky rider, has even the slightest chance of going all the way he needs to save his doms for when they're really needed.