Vuelta a España Alcalá de Guadaíra - Marbella 173.7km

[Boardslide]

And, believe or not, Cav had an excuse: the heat

Sorry Mark, but the other guys had to endure the same heat too, they were just better than you, period.

Before you make such stupid remarks perhaps you should get your facts right as per the following cycling weekly report

""I was feeling really ill before, but the weather was incredibly hard, especially coming from Great Britain where it's not usually this hot."

"I had goosepimples all over my body and I was throwing up in the first half with the heat."

"It's the same for everybody, but it was hardest for the [HTC-Columbia] guys riding on the front."

"They're incredibly strong and committed and I'm lucky to have them."

"It hurts me a lot when I can't get the win after they rode so strong all day."

"But even after the guys crashed [like Martin Velits] they came back and we didn't get any support, they still gave it 100 percent."

"At the end of the day, I just wasn't fast enough. Hutarovich deserved the win, he did an incredible sprint, so I can't be disappointed. At the end of the day there was somebody better than me."

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk

 

[Lyds97]

Exactly. The boy had to offer some explanation for why he didn't win; he's not saying that he was hard done by, just giving us all a reason.

I'm sure he'd be equally pounced on if his response was "Why didn't I win? I just didn't."

Reasons always sound like excuses, it's just the way it is.

 

[Orinda8]

Exactly. The boy had to offer some explanation for why he didn't win; he's not saying that he was hard done by, just giving us all a reason.

I'm sure he'd be equally pounced on if his response was "Why didn't I win? I just didn't."

Reasons always sound like excuses, it's just the way it is.

We should not minimize the serious health risks of riding in 40 degree heat,from heat exhaustion to heat stroke, the team doctor should have pulled Mark from the race if he vomited multiple times. Could someone tell me why the races in Europe are always in the hottest part of the day whereas races in the US are usually early to late morning (including the TOC)a much healthier time for the riders?

 

[tgsgirl]

mark is such a fricken baby! always making excuses!

Haha, that is a classic coming from an Evans fan Tell me, how do you feel about Hoste?

 

[hrotha]

Oh Freire

Hutarovich? I don't really know him, never heard his name

I know it's very Freireish to have no idea of what's going on around you, but come on! I always thought sprinters formed a private club and they all knew each other.

 

[The Hitch]

We should not minimize the serious health risks of riding in 40 degree heat,from heat exhaustion to heat stroke, the team doctor should have pulled Mark from the race if he vomited multiple times. Could someone tell me why the races in Europe are always in the hottest part of the day whereas races in the US are usually early to late morning (including the TOC)a much healthier time for the riders?

I always thought that 12 oclock is theoretically the hottest time of the day (though does vary) since the sun is directly above. European races are generally about 10/11 - 14/15. The vuelta is later. 12 - 16 or so.

 

[tgsgirl]

Oh Freire

I know it's very Freireish to have no idea of what's going on around you, but come on! I always thought sprinters formed a private club and they all knew each other.

You do know you're talking about the man who forgot his race jersey on the final stage of the Tour de France, right? He's not known for paying attention at the best of times.
(don't get me wrong, I love the man)

 

[The Hitch]

mark is such a fricken baby! always making excuses!

Haha, that is a classic coming from an Evans fan Tell me, how do you feel about Hoste?

Especially great coming just 1 day afer this

I wonder if the spanish neutral service can cost somebody the race this year?

 

[hrotha]

You do know you're talking about the man who forgot his race jersey on the final stage of the Tour de France, right? He's not known for paying attention at the best of times.
(don't get me wrong, I love the man)

Yeah, I love him too, but at least he could play PCM or something!

edit: by the way, that picture is hilarious. I didn't know that story about his jersey.

 

[The Hitch]

Yeah, I love him too, but at least he could play PCM or something!

edit: by the way, that picture is hilarious. I didn't know that story about his jersey.

the picture above is from the team presentation no?

What happened during the final stage with freires jersey?

 

[tgsgirl]

Rabo has this best of TdF section on their picture page, I only saw it today myself Robert Gesink himself took that picture.
http://now.rabosport.nl/user/RGUpdate/view/7090889

 

[Orinda8]

I always thought that 12 oclock is theoretically the hottest time of the day (though does vary) since the sun is directly above. European races are generally about 10/11 - 14/15. The vuelta is later. 12 - 16 or so.

On the West Coast 15-17 is the time of peak temps for the day;our clubs always ride starting at 8-9 during the summer and in the Southeast start times at 6 or 7 always leave me in bed

 

[tgsgirl]

the picture above is from the team presentation no?

What happened during the final stage with freires jersey?

He forgot it, apparently. He forgot his racing shoes once too during TdF, so he started the stage on sneakers and had to change on the bike. In the week before the Worlds in Lisbon he went out for training and got lost. He had no money with him and he didn't remember the name of the hotel they were staying at. Luckily he found a cabbie who was a cycling fan, and they just drove around til Oscarcito recognized the hotel. And I don't remember the race, but he once turned to a teammate to ask how many laps were left. The answer was "uh, Oscar, we're 1500 meters from the finish!". So he sprinted to the front of the bunch, and won the race.
Seriously. The man is a legend.

 

[pedaling squares]

Greipel woulda won that.

 

[icefire]

You do know you're talking about the man who forgot his race jersey on the final stage of the Tour de France, right? He's not known for paying attention at the best of times.
(don't get me wrong, I love the man)

He's known for having lost his way from stage finish to the hotel too often. In a pre-stage interview today he's said that he had trouble to get back home after his training rides when he moved to Switzerland because all the lakes around looked the same to him

 

[tgsgirl]

He's known for having lost his way from stage finish to the hotel too often. In a pre-stage interview today he's said that he had trouble to get back home after his training rides when he moved to Switzerland because all the lakes around looked the same to him

The one man who would benefit from a stroboscope on top of the bus

 

[karlboss]

looked like Cav hestitated coming off the wheel of farrar and couldn't gain hold momentum, any class sprinter on Cavendish's wheel who didn't hesitate would have won that. Well done by Hutarovich for picking the wheel and putting his head down and going. Hopefully another sprinter who will be regularly in the mix.

 

[Francois the Postman]

I always thought that 12 oclock is theoretically the hottest time of the day (though does vary) since the sun is directly above. European races are generally about 10/11 - 14/15. The vuelta is later. 12 - 16 or so.

Summertime makes that 1 o'clock, but your base assumption is wrong.

If you bring water to the boil at full blast, but reduce the gas slowly well before it boils, and keep reducing it slowly until you switch it off, the water will keep getting hotter until the energy it is exposed to is less than the level it is at (and what it loses naturally). From that point it will cool. So the hottest part is a bit after you took it off full blast, since the water wasn't as warm as "full blast", so it would still gain heat until the gas fire becomes too weak.

Same with the temperature in Spain. You are right that the sun is at its highest point at 12 (1), but the sun doesn't stop at 12 with adding more heat than Spain has absorbed by 12.

The warmest part is usually somewhere between 2 and 4-ish, depending on where you live.

 

[Francois the Postman]

Freire's dippyness is legendary. I love the guy.

 

[Spare Tyre]

On the West Coast 15-17 is the time of peak temps for the day;our clubs always ride starting at 8-9 during the summer and in the Southeast start times at 6 or 7 always leave me in bed

Same in Melbourne. To avoid the worst of the heat you would want to finish a stage by 2 pm.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Haha, that is a classic coming from an Evans fan Tell me, how do you feel about Hoste?

Well it is a true. Please tell me how he is a whinger?

 

[Mellow Velo]

Well it is a true. Please tell me how he is a whinger?

She could tell you, but there wouldn't be much point, now would there?

Let's move along. Like his team, he isn't at the Vueta, so is off topic.
Better off sticking to the Sky bashing, with a dash of Rabo bashing, just to get the Dutch off side.

 

[theyoungest]

Freire's dippyness is legendary. I love the guy.

Recent Freire quote, after hearing the news that teammate Jos van Emden took his first pro win:

Van Emden? Who? Oh, the one that looks like Leipheimer.

 

[Francois the Postman]

Recent Freire quote, after hearing the news that teammate Jos van Emden took his first pro win: Van Emden? Who? Oh, the one that looks like Leipheimer.

Class!

Has he figured out he is riding for Rabo yet, or does he just like this bright blue and orange bus that shows up at his hotel a lot, now you mention it, and always gives him a welcome ride from and to the hotel? Nice chaps too, on the whole. Maybe he should introduce himself one day.

I guess the mystery is solved too then, why Freire tends to win as the accidental tourist, picking his own wheels to jump from, without using a train. He just hasn't twigged he is there as part of a bigger team.

So he is basically riding as Team Freire in a sport where he can vaguely identify those that are usually in wheels around him by the end, if they are also mentioned by name on that Eurosport TV highlights thingie afterwards.

 

[craig1985]

Class!

Has he figured out he is riding for Rabo yet, or does he just like this bright blue and orange bus that shows up at his hotel a lot, now you mention it, and always gives him a welcome ride from and to the hotel? Nice chaps too, on the whole. Maybe he should introduce himself one day.

I guess the mystery is solved too then, why Freire tends to win as the accidental tourist, picking his own wheels to jump from, without using a train. He just hasn't twigged he is there as part of a bigger team.

So he is basically riding as Team Freire in a sport where he can vaguely identify those that are usually in wheels around him by the end, if they are also mentioned by name on that Eurosport TV highlights thingie afterwards.

Haha, that's brilliant. Are we ruling out the possibility that Freire had been drinking when he was asked that question?

Back on topic though, congratulations to Yauheni Hutarovich. Great to see an outsider win.