Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 11 (Villaviciosa › Alto de La Farrapona. Lagos de Somiedo 170km)

[Jungle Cycle]

Rogla is in red

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322505287052500992

View: https://twitter.com/Copedaleando/status/1322505287052500992

 

[DanielSong39]

If Adam Hansen is any indication we should take anything we hear from riders with a grain of salt

 

[FjPavels]

If Adam Hansen is any indication we should take anything we hear from riders with a grain of salt

Funniest thing about the protest in the giro was the people pretending it was cold lol

 

[luckyboy]

Riders: have any opinion or argument about the race they are racing

This forum: wah wah the riders should shut up and ride, no time and place is ever the time and place for this

 

[luckyboy]

The 3-second rule was there and then it was changed after the racing to 1 second. Nothing to complain about at all, yeah...

 

[Red Rick]

The 3-second rule was there and then it was changed after the racing to 1 second. Nothing to complain about at all, yeah...

They had 18 hours to protest it lol

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Thomas giving the pot a stir and gaining some friends on twitter

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322502597505388549

View: https://twitter.com/GeraintThomas86/status/1322502597505388549


"Great to see the peloton sticking together at the Vuelta. Well, apart from the usual suspects "

 

[hrotha]

This is the kind of thing you protest to the jury and/or the UCI. It's a bit like trying to get the whole peloton to unite for a dubious disqualification in a sprint by stopping the race. It's also a bit myopic to go all "waaah there's no unity within the peloton" when your protest is inherently divisive and primarily about your own particular interest.

 

[SafeBet]

Riders: have any opinion or argument about the race they are racing

This forum: wah wah the riders should shut up and ride, no time and place is ever the time and place for this

Except you are just making stuff up, because most posters here have repeatedly stated where and how these complaints should be made.

On the road, 5 minutes before the start is the worst possible place and time. They're just doing harakiri and destroying cycling image.

 

[Red Rick]

This is the kind of thing you protest to the jury and/or the UCI. It's a bit like trying to get the whole peloton to unite for a dubious disqualification in a sprint by stopping the race. It's also a bit myopic to go all "whaaa there's no unity within the peloton" when your protest is inherently divisive and primarily about your own particular interest.

It's just Ineos crying now they don't get preferential treatment one time. Seems like being a whiny * is a requirment or at least gets you a bonus at that team

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

If they did in fact change a rule mid race and it cost riders time, protesting about it seems reasonable enough. And at the start of a stage is the most effective way to protest. All the people whining that they should protest in some less effectual way would make very bad shop stewards.

 

[Red Rick]

Except you are just making stuff up, because most posters here have repeatedly stated where and how these complaints should be made.

On the road, 5 minutes before the start is the worst possible place and time. They're just doing harakiri and destroying cycling image.

At least there's some consistency

 

[richwallone]

It's just Ineos crying now they don't get preferential treatment one time. Seems like being a whiny * is a requirment or at least gets you a bonus at that team

Apparently there was some discussion between teams about this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322507843413692416

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1322507843413692416?s=20

 

[hrotha]

If they did in fact change a rule mid race and it cost riders time, protesting about it seems reasonable enough. And at the start of a stage is the most effective way to protest. All the people whining that they should protest in some less effectual way would make very bad shop stewards.

How do you reckon this is the most effective way to protest when it didn't achieve ***-all anyway? Just because it made the most noise?

By this logic, we should get rid of all administrative channels to lodge complaints because hey, you should skip straight to the pre-race protest. And then whine that not everybody in the peloton agrees with you about how this should be handled.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

This time, it's definitely the UCI's fault. Whether the 3-second rule should have applied or not is a separate discussion, but you cannot change it during or after the stage. Not impressed with the start being delayed again but at least the protesting riders have a legitimate point this time.

 

[Netserk]

It's a problem of the dissonance that the 3" rule doesn't apply on uphill finishes, but yesterday's finish wasn't classified as a climb yet was quite demonstrably uphill to enough of an extent to create gaps, and frankly a finish like that makes the 3" rule a joke as how the hell Roglič and those at the front can't be assessed as having opened up a time gap on that finish is beyond me. However, if the rules state that the finish has to be a categorised climb for the 3" rule to not apply (in which case, what of races like the Benelux Tour that don't have a mountains classification?) then it should be applied and that would give Carapaz the jersey back. If that were to be correct, however, then the finish would make a mockery of the rule (although the Vuelta could easily rectify this by introducing 4th category climbs, which they don't have).

It was an active decision to have the rule apply. It doesn't have to apply to all non-MTFs. They could have chosen to not apply it to yesterday's stage, even with no categorised climb in the end. This is solely on the organisers, and I am absolutely with Ineos in this.

I disagree with the rule, but this is not the rule's fault.

 

[FjPavels]

So the riders in the vuelta protest against changing the rules, and the riders in the Giro protested to change a stage right before/after it started.

 

[RedheadDane]

G. Martin really has gotten attached to that jersey!

 

[SafeBet]

G. Martin really has gotten attached to that jersey!

He should tell Perichon though.

 

[titan31]

Ineos should be focusing on trying to get the jersey back so that the 3 seconds don't matter rather than doing a stupid protest

 

[Krokro]

2020 is so weird, I'd not have believed seeing Cofidis imploding the peloton in a GT. Great for the race!

Edit: reminds me of the side action for the green jersey in the TDF. The year when the less important jerseys offer us great battles, yummy

 

[Eclipse]

Guillame Martin's nefarious assault on 11th place (disguised as a contest for the mountains jersey) accelerates once again

 

[Bolder]

I like G. Martin. He seems like a rider who maximizes his talent.

 

[Red Rick]

Peloton shattered to bits.

 

[ice&fire]

Carapaz looks alone