Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 12 (Pola de Laviana > Alto de l'Angliru, 109.4 km)

[Anybody_but..]

I bet Froome is regretting gifting the win on Angliru to Contador a few years ago now. It was a nice gesture, but given what's happened since, he may never be in shape to win on it again.

No, Froome doesn't regret now or didn't years ago , he knew Contador was completely over and he would like to give him a gift.

 

[Red Rick]

The "craziest" climb I wanna see is Passo di Tremalzo from Limone. Mainly because I think it's steep in the right quantity, the scenery is gorgeous, and because you can descend into a decent amount of options

Spoiler

 

[ice&fire]

Ah, but the Zonc was already conquered in the Giro Rosa two years before Angliru in the Vuelta.

Then it must have been a case of 'Zonc is not suitable for a big race' until they saw it done in Angliru

 

[titan31]

Back when that La Flamme Rouge came up with that, this was the hardest one they considered ridable

https://twitter.com/x/status/872001568299732992

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/872001568299732992?s=20

Looking at it. You could combine this with Zoncolan. Go over Zoncolan from the Sutrio or Priola side and then down to Ovaro and then climb that. It'd be carnage

 

[fuiers]

How long until they hit Angliru?

 

[sir fly]

A tactical rather than competitive break.
They'll need to build a solid gap, regardless.

 

[richwallone]

Steep Kuss girlfriend left him, citing she suspected he was cheating with a girl with the weird name 'Scanuppia'

I had to google it... Some Czech dude did a nice short video clip... He really is a glutton for suffering... Btw, he also climbed the Pozza San Glisente climb He doesn't say anything important, just basic stats but both clips give you a great idea what the road is and how steep it is:

View: https://youtu.be/uhfhJnyyotQ

View: https://youtu.be/KVT565djfvo

 

[TomLPC]

Feel bad for Sean Kelly having to say Angliru a lot today, sometimes your accent just isn't conditioned to make certain sounds, Danish lad at work tries to teach me a few words sometimes, usually terms of abuse, I know how they sound like in my head, just can't get them out of my mouth.

 

[richwallone]

It looks like lots of sprinters made into the break... Trying to get ahead and not end up OTL, I guess...

 

[Fuente De]

I bet Froome is regretting gifting the win on Angliru to Contador a few years ago now. It was a nice gesture, but given what's happened since, he may never be in shape to win on it again.

That wasn't a gift. Contador won it fair and square in impressive fashion.

 

[Netserk]

Feel bad for Sean Kelly having to say Angliru a lot today, sometimes your accent just isn't conditioned to make certain sounds, Danish lad at work tries to teach me a few words sometimes, usually terms of abuse, I know how they sound like in my head, just can't get them out of my mouth.

You can't say tæv?

 

[roundabout]

The "craziest" climb I wanna see is Passo di Tremalzo from Limone. Mainly because I think it's steep in the right quantity, the scenery is gorgeous, and because you can descend into a decent amount of options

Spoiler

I don't think it's paved from the lake side and on a very quick youtube look seems rather difficult to do on a road bike

 

[Pirazziattacks]

I had to google it... Some Czech dude did a nice short video clip... He really is a glutton for suffering... Btw, he also climbed the San Glisente He doesn't say anything important, just basic stats but both clips give you a great idea what the road is and how steep it is:

View: https://youtu.be/uhfhJnyyotQ

View: https://youtu.be/KVT565djfvo

Personally I'm happy to leave these roads for the locals (most of whom I assume are farmers), MTBers and occasional nutters like this guy. From an outside perspective investing in improving these insane "roads" that would be 4wd tracks at best pretty much anywhere outside Europe seems insane.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

In 1999, when this climb was held for the first time David Millar refused to cross the line and withdrew a few meters before the finish. There were protests of riders and team leaders that it was inhumane. Nowadays it's largely accepted as the climax of a normal Vuelta.

We'll have to see whether Gary Imlach or Ned Boulting challenge him on how his opinion on that has changed in the ITV4 show later.

 

[sir fly]

That wasn't a gift. Contador won it fair and square in impressive fashion.

Yeah, he really was a class act.
Wonder why he didn't win more.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't think it's paved from the lake side and on a very quick youtube look seems rather difficult to do on a road bike

Bit of work obviously. If it were Finestre road quality it would be amazing.

 

[gunara]

No, Froome doesn't regret now or didn't years ago , he knew Contador was completely over and he would like to give him a gift.

No, Froome regret it now and did years ago, he wanted to give it, just wrong person accepted it, Alberto stole it from his desired receiver, Poels, obviously.

 

[sir fly]

Considering the Angry Lou will make a natural selection, I guess some will regret not giving it a go yesterday.
That was the idea behind this weekend design, I think.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I suppose can they and would they are two different things then, posted in one of the giro stages a while ago;

Make that a downhill prologue and someone will have the race in the bag (by being the lone survivor).

 

[sir fly]

A pity Formollo missed the initial move ahead.

 

[Anybody_but..]

The sesason is almost over.
The question is: who is the the biggest loser? Nibali or Froome? Sb else?

 

[Red Rick]

Make that a downhill prologue and someone will have the race in the bag (by being the lone survivor).

Give Roglic his old jumping skis and a parachute and he'll attack from far out.

 

[dgodave]

Feel bad for Sean Kelly having to say Angliru a lot today, sometimes your accent just isn't conditioned to make certain sounds, Danish lad at work tries to teach me a few words sometimes, usually terms of abuse, I know how they sound like in my head, just can't get them out of my mouth.

Just give up and call it the Angry Loo.

 

[hayneplane]

The sesason is almost over.
The question is: who is the the biggest loser? Nibali or Froome? Sb else?

Gaviria - barely any form and managed to catch Covid twice.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Just have a Vuelta start in Bavaria und have a Nebelhorn unipublic stage on the 3rd day.
If Rojas was in charge we'd probably get an opening prologue in Nürnberg, a sprint stage finishing in München ahead of the Bürgerbräukeller and a Kehrsteinhaus mft.
Of course a Vuelta designed by him would have to feature a Valle de los Caidos stage as one of the final gc stages...