Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2022, stage 12: Salobreña - Peñas Blancas. Estepona, 192.7k

[Lexman]

Quick Step and FDJ chasing

 

[Lexman]

update by Sporza :
Jumbo-Visma: Teunissen
AG2R Citroën: Champoussin
Astana-Qazaqstan: Battistella, Loetsenko
Bahrain Victorious: Zambanini
Bora-Hansgrohe: Fabbro, Kelderman
EF-EasyPost: Caicedo, Shaw
Ineos Grenadiers: Carapaz
Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert: Bakelants
Israel-Premier Tech: Bevin, Goldstein, Hagen
Movistar: Oliveira, Rojas
Quick Step-Alpha Vinyl: Vervaeke
BikeExchange: Craddock
DSM: Brenner, Hvideberg
Trek-Segafredo: Tiberi
UAE: Soler, Oliveira, Polanc
Alpecin-Deceuninck: Taminiaux, Vermeersch, Vine
Burgos-BH: Diaz Gallego
Euskaltel-Euskadi: Canal, Iturria
Arkea-Samsic: Gesbert, Owsian

 

[Valv.Piti]

Same here. And honestly I don‘t really get these words on Evenepoel of both of them Daniel Friebe and Brian Nygaard, the latter even said he did a survey on if and how much people are happy when Evenepoel wins races..
Shouldn‘t be the usual Cycling Podcast standard, should it… just random bashing for no reason.

So yeah - I want him to dominate today and on Sunday. Next week should be not a hard one for him if he‘s still almost three minutes up in GC at that point.
Let‘s just hope there are no more Covid related DNS during the next days.

Brian Nygaard is just a sorry hater, unfortunately. Never liked his elitist way of communicating cycling either, whether that was as a commentator or a writer. For christ sake, the man had Simon Yates as a favorite which should tell you all about how objective his predictions/arguments were.

 

[Riek s]

Kelderman closest in GC @ 14minutes.

don't think Remco needs to care about this break. Just keep them at 5minutes and the boni seconds are gone.

 

[ontheroad]

So Pinot misses the break again and FDJ are driving the peloton. It's like deja vu from stage 8. Even if they pull the 32 man break back Pinot will get done up like a kipper by Vine again on the last climb. If the break stays away I can only see one winner of the stage today.

 

[dazaau]

So Pinot misses the break again and FDJ are driving the peloton. It's like deja vu from stage 8. Even if they pull the 32 man break back Pinot will get done up like a kipper by Vine again on the last climb. If the break stays away I can only see one winner of the stage today.

And Vine has two team-mates. Looking good for him

 

[ontheroad]

And Vine has two team-mates. Looking good for him

Barring a split in the break I can't see how he gets beat given his form. The rest of the riders in the break will be thinking the same.

 

[ontheroad]

Gap now 3:00, peloton sitting up.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

How could FDJ miss a 32 man break? So what, none of their seven riders were present in the front quarter of the peloton or something.? There are only some 150 riders left, about one fifth are in the break.

 

[hayneplane]

No need for Quick Step to work too hard today. They can afford to let the lead group take 10-12 minutes today and they still have Vervaeke to drop back from the break if required to do some pacing on the final climb.

 

[sir fly]

The dynamics inside such a big breakaway may come down to multi-rider teams and their interest.

 

[Tim Cahill]

If these lads bring Jay Vine to the last climb in a state other than 'close to death' then they deserve everything that's about to happen. Soler also very dangerous!

 

[ppanther92]

So we are going to see Vine #3 today, right?

So far it didn't look like anyone from the break could match his climbing level.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Let's see if Carapaz can surprise. Pretty unlikely, though.

 

[Potomac]

Make vine and teamates do all the work

 

[staubsauger]

I mean it's shortly after a rest day. Carapaz could be up there all of a sudden!

 

[Breezy1985]

How do FdJ miss that break

 

[Mayomaniac]

So more wine for Vine?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Barring a split in the break I can't see how he gets beat given his form. The rest of the riders in the break will be thinking the same.

There are some good and proven climbers in this group. Of course his form is great, but the climb also isn't that steep, so he might not get rid of them easily and might have to cover attacks and then loose.

 

[Lequack]

Of course Jay Vine is going to win, closely followed by Soler.

 

[Riek s]

Soler wasn't that much worse than Vine in the previous breakaway. so if he can stay on his wheel, which given the gradients should give a better benifit (especially after the steep part) he might have a small shot to content with Vine. (On the other hand, it looks like i'm grasping for straws to make it attractive... Vine could also be worse than 1st week, but he had 4 rest days by now...)

 

[ontheroad]

There are some good and proven climbers in this group. Of course his form is great, but the climb also isn't that steep, so he might not get rid of them easily and might have to cover attacks and then loose.

The other climbers will all be looking at Vine so if there are several attacks the other riders need to let Vine do the chasing and hope that he burns himself out. Or he might just ride away from them all early and go for a long one. On form Soler would appear to be the next best although Carapaz is a sly fox tactically so he might have something up his sleeve.

 

[Big Doopie]

Was that a survey of riders or of other bourgeois media types? I find the Cycling Podcast hard going at the best of times and shut down that episode as there was too much crap about wine, cricket and taking the piss out of chicken farmers.

They miss Richard Moore.

As does the world.

 

[Riek s]

The other climbers will all be looking at Vine so if there are several attacks the other riders need to let Vine do the chasing and hope that he burns himself out. Or he might just ride away from them all early and go for a long one. On form Soler would appear to be the next best although Carapaz is a sly fox tactically so he might have something up his sleeve.

like nails or other sharp objects? because that might work

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

The other climbers will all be looking at Vine so if there are several attacks the other riders need to let Vine do the chasing and hope that he burns himself out. Or he might just ride away from them all early and go for a long one. On form Soler would appear to be the next best although Carapaz is a sly fox tactically so he might have something up his sleeve.

A long one isn't realistic imo, at least not alone, the climb really isn't steep on a lot of it's sections so the wind will play a different role. He might want to split up the break earlier in the climb to have to worry about less riders.
I agree about Soler and Carapaz.