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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but it's a side of Roglic i don't really like, and it's not the first time i've seen some unsportsmanlike racing of him. This really reminded me of when he was trailing Rohan Dennis by 4 minutes i think in the Harrogate WCC ITT. Dennis passed him by with still i think 15k to go, and suddenly he started getting in Dennis' slipstream and trying to overtake him again, while he at that point was a non-factor. He was just trolling Dennis, since he wasn't even getting into the top 10 at that point. To add insult to injury, he actually sprinted next to Dennis when they were about to cross the finishline. That's just poor and pathetic in my book. Today, i'd have no issue if he attacked Evenepoel before the finish, in case he had at least tried to do some work in chasing Mas, who was a threat to him before he was to Evenepoel. Yeah, sorry, not a fan of this behavior. Unfitting a ''great champion''. If you want to wheelsuck your way up a climb, and you feel you need to attack the rider who's been doing your job, by all means but don't expect a thumbs up from me.
Now, there is also some possibility that where they lost out was that Evenepoel either didn't feel he could, or wasn't experienced enough to know it was an option, or considered it as an option but rejected it, bluff Roglič and let Mas go, since Mas was about 3 minutes down on Evenepoel.
Evenepoel wasn't riding at such a pace that made it impossible to attack, since both Mas and Lopez both attacked, unless i dreamt that, and they immediately got a pretty big gap. So unlike in week 1, this wasn't what Evenepoel was doing. He was just riding a tempo that he knew he could sustain all the way to the top while limiting his losses. The fact that he didn't ride much faster than Arensman from the break, or Ayuso coming from behind, further proves that.
Logic statement wasn't about being smart or that he couldn't do it. Just that it is a bit weak to do for such a champion to not take his responsibility and then just launches at the end.
Logic statement wasn't about being smart or that he couldn't do it. Just that it is a bit weak to do for such a champion to not take his responsibility and then just launches at the end.
And if you don't like it, it's unsportsmanlike.What does that have to do with what i said? He can do it, but i don't have to like it.
Agreed. It's risk management. Win by 30'' or win by 2'30'', you win either way. So the strategy is to minimise exposure to great losses.Yeah, in hindsight that's true, but remember the Tour - Roglic looked like the strongest right until the point when he didn't. What if he was bluffing Evenepoel here in the Vuelta as well? Then Enric Mas rides off with the race and everyone (justifiably) calls Evenepoel an idiot for sticking with Roglic.
Also, it seems Evenepoel just didn't need to take much risks yesterday, just riding his own pace was good enough in the end.
In conclusion, there are a lot of wheelsucker on this forum it seems.
Let me laugh harderAnd if you don't like it, it's unsportsmanlike.
In conclusion, when it's about Remco or another rider you like all logic is not your friend.In conclusion, there are a lot of wheelsucker on this forum it seems.
Once Mas had set off, though, it's Remco's responsibility as the race leader. He could have bluffed Rogla saying "Mas needs 3 minutes on me, he's more of a threat to you, I'm not going to ride until he's a threat to me" and see if Rogla would take up the pace, but that might have been disadvantageous to how Remco preferred to ride the climb.Logic statement wasn't about being smart or that he couldn't do it. Just that it is a bit weak to do for such a champion to not take his responsibility and then just launches at the end.
That's funny because i think the bias here is mainly in the pro-Rog (or anti-RE) camp. I don't think in the past it was generally well liked by lots of people when a defending champion would not do any work for miles and miles, just to outsprint his rival in the final stretch. I know a lot MVDP fans didn't like it when Colbrelli outsprinted him, while in that case Colbrelli had actually been doing a lot of work.In conclusion, when it's about Remco or another rider you like all logic is not your friend.
And was anyone well-respected for calling Colbrelli unsportsmanlike (if there were anyone who utered such nonsense)?That's funny because i think the bias here is mainly in the pro-Rog camp. I don't think in the past it was generally well liked by lots of people when a defending champion would not do any work for miles and miles, just to outsprint his rival in the final stretch. I know a lot MVDP fans didn't like it when Colbrelli outsprinted him, while in that case Colbrelli had actually been doing a lot of work.
Now you are putting words into my mouth.There you have it. @Libertine Seguros missed Kuss. It was worth it!
Wait... Roglic was attacking Evenepoel... You think Evenepoel should have helped him do that?@Logic-is-your-friend
Likely due to the fact Roglič actually did the work we expected from him to do on this stage. People tend to recognize that. And on that part Evenepoel, Mas and López did what? They sucked the wheel.
But OK. I know where this is going. Roglič must redeem himself in week 3. Heavens forbid he would just sit there on Evenepoel wheel. Lets hence just build on that.
Nah I think he meant that 2 kilometer stretch at the bottom of the climb. Completely oblivious that Remco did the work for the following 15...Wait... Roglic was attacking Evenepoel... You think Evenepoel should have helped him do that?
Why burn matches when Jumbo are doing it for you? López and Mas then attacked when impetus went out of Jumbo's move and gained time not only on Evenepoel but on Rogla too.When Roglič and his team did the majority of the job. At the begging of the climb. Then it was up to Mas and López to join in. They choose not to do that.
But that was Roglic still trying to break Evenepoel until he realized he couldn't. Then his magnanimous effort was over.Nah I think he meant that 2 kilometer stretch at the bottom of the climb. Completely oblivious that Remco did the work for the following 15...