Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2022, stage 16: Sanlúcar de Barrameda - Tomares, 189.4k

[groogster]

Developing news!!

As we speak some conclusions have already been made…
Evenepoel at 3.5km from the finish realized he hadn’t the legs for that very hard and long climb and simulate a flat tyre, he then asked QS for a change of bike and told QS DS to pinch the tyre with a needle just in case that the race Commissaires did an inspection on his bike. Still not happy with that and Knowing that Roglic was on his way to fight for the stage he asked Van Poppel to bump into Roglic, breaking just a bit while he fought for the sprint!

 

[303pbmf]

Just scratch that 3km rule altogether. Seriously, why is it even there? It makes no sense.

It's there so GC guys dont fight for position with sprinter teams until the finish line. Offcourse now they do so until 3k to go

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Yeah I don’t know why the “Remco faked it” attained critical mass and established itself as the focus instead of Roglic as tragic hero with bike handling as his fatal flaw.

Edit: Not to say bad luck hasn’t had an impact. But if you can handle your bike well enough, you can overcome a lot. See: Sagan bunny hopping a fallen rider without losing a moment.

Yea, Roglič is now into Geraint Thomas territory. Anybody can have a crash due to bad luck, but when it becomes a pattern of happening to one particular rider it suggests the problem is with their bike handling, placement or pack skills.

 

[topcat]

Fred Wright rides for Bahrain (the evil rain). He indirectly causes Roglic to crash. Just don't be there, Fred.
I mean why limit the persecution complex to just Remco's "flat"? We can push this a lot further.

 

[roundabout]

Just scratch that 3km rule altogether. Seriously, why is it even there? It makes no sense.

Would you rather have races be decided by luck?

 

[Riek s]

Yea, Roglič is now into Geraint Thomas territory. Anybody can have a crash due to bad luck, but when it becomes a pattern of happening to one particular rider it suggests the problem is with their bike handling, placement or pack skills.

There are accidents which he can't help ofcourse (like the tour), but on the other hand besides crashing he also caused a few crashes or almost causes them.

Max Schachmann has hit out at Primoz Roglic and Jumbo-Visma, describing the Slovenian as a "danger to all riders"

So probably Roglic is a guy who likes to takes risks here and there (also why he won a stage at the beginning). However sometimes it doesn't end well.

Hope he didn't suffer to big injuries and can still continue/fight for his GC position at least.

 

[Didinho]

On Sporza they say something about a big melted bubblegum or something. Just when he would touch Wright the bike just slips really hard when approuching that spot

 

[Izzyeviel]

Developing news!!

As we speak some conclusions have already been made…
Evenepoel at 3.5km from the finish realized he hadn’t the legs for that very hard and long climb and simulate a flat tyre, he then asked QS for a change of bike and told QS DS to pinch the tyre with a needle just in case that the race Commissaires did an inspection on his bike. Still not happy with that and Knowing that Roglic was on his way to fight for the stage he asked Van Poppel to bump into Roglic, breaking just a bit while he fought for the sprint!

In years to come, the biggest mass debate in cycling will be between flat tyrer's vs round tyrer's.

 

[Cagalitroso]

it's very obvious here that rogla saw evenepoel changing bike and decided to attack

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567182552644915210

View: https://twitter.com/Pablogt_99/status/1567182552644915210?cxt=HHwWlMC4yc6O4L8rAAAA

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I'm far away from being a Remco fan, but even I'm laughing my ass off at some of the negative comments on him. Can we now put a bigger asterisk on this Vuelta win than TGH's Giro win?

Absolutely , because he is Remco and none of his big wins count, for some reason. Needs asterisk

 

[red_flanders]

On Sporza they say something about a big melted bubblegum or something. Just when he would touch Wright the bike just slips really hard when approuching that spot

Or he put in a huge effort, was riding cross-eyed, had a momentary lapse, and put his front wheel into the other guy's bike.

 

[ooo]

Sporza shows slippery calcum asphalt patches on finish line:

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I think both Remco and Roglič should be awarded bonus seconds for being too strong for their bikes to handle.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

It's there so GC guys dont fight for position with sprinter teams until the finish line. Offcourse now they do so until 3k to go

It's also there to stop GC riders from trying to gain time on a rival when the opportunity exists.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Absolutely , because he is Remco and none of his big wins count, for some reason. Needs asterisk

Can a mod please check Ilmaestro99's account, it appears to have been hacked.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Absolutely , because he is Remco and none of his big wins count, for some reason. Needs asterisk

Let's be fair, he has his fair share of disciples who think every time he didn't stomp the field needs asterisking for some reason or another too.

 

[Didinho]

Or he put in a huge effort, was riding cross-eyed, had a momentary lapse, and put his front wheel into the other guy's bike.

Exactly my thought

 

[red_flanders]

Let's be fair, he has his fair share of disciples who think every time he didn't stomp the field needs asterisking for some reason or another too.

Sure. If to "be fair" we act like a 10:1 ratio of pointless hating to pollyannaish absurdity is equivalent.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

it's very obvious here that rogla saw evenepoel changing bike and decided to attack

https://twitter.com/x/status/1567182552644915210

View: https://twitter.com/Pablogt_99/status/1567182552644915210?cxt=HHwWlMC4yc6O4L8rAAAA

WOW, how far back was Remco? About 40 seconds had passed from Roglic attacking to seeing Remco next pull up.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Can a mod please check Ilmaestro99's account, it appears to have been hacked.

Man the stage finish today really was weird , not very often I've been agreeing with Belgian Remco fans

 

[Red Rick]

Sure. If to "be fair" we act like a 10:1 ratio of pointless hating to pollyannaish absurdity is equivalent.

Most of the absurdity is fans claiming what haters will say

 

[Izzyeviel]

Would you rather have races be decided by luck?

Well isn't it luck that Remco rode 186.5km on a tire that suddenly deflated just past the 3km to go sign?

You win some, lose some. As it is this race could be decided by Roglic's accident - one that probably doesn't happen if he receives the 'Remco has a problem, you have a large gap & don't need the time bonus' message from his DS. Swings & roundabouts.

 

[red_flanders]

Most of the absurdity is fans claiming what haters will say

You really believe that? Most?

 

[SHAD0W93]

On the question of where the flat occurred, one can guess if it was within 3km or not and he should get the Ala treatment, but on Peacock at 2:25:26 you can see Evenepoel’s rear tire is flat when he raises his hand.

 

[roundabout]

Well isn't it luck that Remco rode 186.5km on a tire that suddenly deflated just past the 3km to go sign?

You win some, lose some. As it is this race could be decided by Roglic's accident - one that probably doesn't happen if he receives the 'Remco has a problem, you have a large gap & don't need the time bonus' message from his DS. Swings & roundabouts.

I honestly would not want Evenpoel to lose the Vuelta to a puncture at an unfortunate time, but your mileage may vary.