Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2022, stage 9: Villaviciosa - Les Praeres, 171.4k

[Devil's Elbow]

To be fair, the MTF at Volta a la Comunidad Valenciana is more similar to this than CSS.

But CSS is much more indicative for current level than Valenciana.

 

[tobydawq]

No offence intended but why all the love for Meintjes? He's been a shameless wheel sucker whose most memorable moment was hopping off his bike and running with it up a steep incline in the TDF. I guess fair play for fulfilling a dream by winning a GT stage but meh...

Because people always love a meme.

 

[tobydawq]

Maybe because a CSS where half the field is completely tired from the Tour and the other half is in Vuelta prep is slightly different from the Vuelta?

You can find like 1 datapoint to predict this and 10 to predict that it doesn't happen so it's fairly normal that some people are very surprised.

Again, if people used their eyes and not closed them to only see results (I know that you use your eyes to read results), it really is not that surprising.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Ayuso is incredible… He‘s nine years or so away from peak performance age for a GT GC rider (which is 28-32).

They should monitor him closely, day by day. Normally, it would have been smart to leave the race (DNS) after stage 14, considering his age - now they probably want him to go all the way to Madrid.

He‘s dropping teammate Almeida, which is incredible. Well, he‘s dropping Mas and Roglic also. He seems to be on track for a final podium in Madrid, in fact. Crazy. I hope that is good for his general development.

Pogacar finished his first GT, Vuelta, as third, and won the Tour the year after.

Ayuso is really impressive. Curious to see how much he still will improve. Maybe he will be the modern Contador.

 

[Sciatic]

After the TT, Remco will decide whether he will go for GC or not.

Ha! Pretty funny remembering that QS were trying to sell us that line prior to the start—but they knew what his numbers were.

 

[HelloDolly]

Remco in this form would've easily won this year's Tour de France.

Oh Jesus wept

I try to like the kid cos he is a top talent but i come on here and I read this stuff

He is doing well against an out of shape and tired peloton and now he could have won the Tour ? pluuuuueeeesssssssseeeeeee

Vinegaard and Pogacar won against the best of the best in top form

 

[Eclipse]

They should monitor him closely, day by day. Normally, it would have been smart to leave the race (DNS) after stage 14, considering his age - now they probably want him to go all the way to Madrid.

The field is so poor Ayuso is basically a good TT away from competing for a GC podium and given young riders development can go stratospheric I think you just keep him going if he's feeling good.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Absolutely nobody would have beaten that Jumbo team this year. Maybe Contador with 09 Astana team.

If they supported him. Froome 2013 with his team would have been a good shot too. A long TTT would have been great to see vs the three teams.

 

[Rollthedice]

Vinegregaard and Pogacar won against the best of the best in top form

Like Thomas, Gaudu and Quintana.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

If they supported him. Froome 2013 with his team would have been a good shot too. A long TTT would have been great to see vs the three teams.

Right fair point!

 

[bill1109]

Remco in this form would've easily won this year's Tour de France.

Lol...nice trolling.

 

[staubsauger]

Haha that Arensman interview "we decided together, we decided together, we decided together" but can't give an explanation why.

Sander Kleikers knew very well DSM *** up once again, so he kept asking. But Thymen would never confess of course.

Leclercq got it immediately.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

To Remco: I would never have imagined he‘s so good… He‘s been much better than I expected, within these first nine stages.

But still, one has to be a little bit cautious: we cannot know how the likes of Remco or Ayuso will ride in these coming last two weeks. I wish them they maintain current shape.

 

[Riek s]

please remco wins so downplay the field.

Mas was second in the vuelta, 6th in the tour of 2021, 5th and 5th in the tour vuelta 2020, The guy is in absolute form and loses 44seconds on Remco on a 15minute effort climb..

 

[tobydawq]

Oh Jesus wept

I try to like the kid cos he is a top talent but i come on here and I read this stuff

He is doing well against an out of shape and tired peloton and now he could have won the Tour ? pluuuuueeeesssssssseeeeeee

Vinegregaard and Pogacar won against the best of the best in top form

Vinegregaard?

A combination of Jay Vine and Jonas Gregaard, I take it?

 

[RedheadDane]

A combination of Jay Vine and Jonas Gregaard, I take it?

Jaynas!

 

[HelloDolly]

Like Thomas, Gaudu and Quintana.

well each other actually

But yeah Thomas had his best numbers ever and he is a Tour champion
But there was Vlasov and A. Yates and others as well

The point is riders were in peak form for the tour , they are not at the Vuelta except Evenepol so can we not have the ludicrous statements about what he would have won when he wasn't there and has proven nothing yet as he still hasnt won this Vuelta

 

[Valv.Piti]

Sander Kleikers knew very well DSM *** up once again, so he kept asking. But Thymen would never confess of course.

Leclercq got it immediately.

That interview was one of the best I have seen. Loved the interviewer, and loved Arensman's answer, you could tell that he absolutely hated dropping, but obviously, if he said that, DSM would probably have thrown him for the wolves.

 

[tobydawq]

well each other actually

But yeah Thomas had his best numbers ever and he is a Tour champion
But there was Vlasov and A. Yates and others as well

The point is riders were in peak form for the tour , they are not at the Vuelta except Evenepol so can we not have the ludicrous statements about what he would have won when he wasn't there and has proven nothing yet as he still hasnt won this Vuelta

And how would you know that? Apart from just having the need to belittle Remco?

I'm not claiming he could easily have won the Tour but just blindly denying the suggestion that he could have contended doesn't seem particularly logical to me.

 

[staubsauger]

That interview was one of the best I have seen. Loved the interviewer, and loved Arensman's answer, you could tell that he absolutely hated dropping, but obviously, if he said that, DSM would probably have thrown him for the wolves.

Arensman initially left DSM on good terms. Looks like those clowns are eager to change that!

 

[Red Rick]

Vine loses 15 minutes today

 

[Breh]

Alpecin, Wanty and Quick Step dominating the MTF's.

What is this timeline

 

[Valv.Piti]

Ayuso is incredible… He‘s nine years or so away from peak performance age for a GT GC rider (which is 28-32).

They should monitor him closely, day by day. Normally, it would have been smart to leave the race (DNS) after stage 14, considering his age - now they probably want him to go all the way to Madrid.

He‘s dropping teammate Almeida, which is incredible. Well, he‘s dropping Mas and Roglic also. He seems to be on track for a final podium in Madrid, in fact. Crazy. I hope that is good for his general development.

Pogacar finished his first GT, Vuelta, as third, and won the Tour the year after.

Ayuso is really impressive. Curious to see how much he still will improve. Maybe he will be the modern Contador.

Lol, leaving the race? The guy is a phenomenon and is likely to ride into top-5 in Madrid, as a spaniard, in Vuelta a Espana. If people told me to leave a race like that I'd quit immediately and find another team, because god knows the whole peloton wants to get their hands on riders like Ayuso. Movistar would be willing to terminate half of their team's contracts in order to get Ayuso on the books, christ!

 

[Angelo1985]

Remco looked really fresh on the podium today, so i dont think he went that deep.

 

[Escarabajo]

Ayuso is incredible… He‘s nine years or so away from peak performance age for a GT GC rider (which is 28-32).

They should monitor him closely, day by day. Normally, it would have been smart to leave the race (DNS) after stage 14, considering his age - now they probably want him to go all the way to Madrid.

He‘s dropping teammate Almeida, which is incredible. Well, he‘s dropping Mas and Roglic also. He seems to be on track for a final podium in Madrid, in fact. Crazy. I hope that is good for his general development.

Pogacar finished his first GT, Vuelta, as third, and won the Tour the year after.

Ayuso is really impressive. Curious to see how much he still will improve. Maybe he will be the modern Contador.

Please stop it. No more of this rhetoric. So what is next Alpe D'huez in 15 minutes. Peak performance has too many variables to be able to know exactly when someone is at peak. We know he is very good but to say that he is away from peak 9-10 years????? please!!!!!!