Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 17: Ribadesella/Ribadeseya - Altu de l’Angliru, 124.4k

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Sep 26, 2020
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Maybe Kuss isn't unhappy right now (he always seems happy after hard stages!) but I think Primoz may feel some frustration. He will go for it today.
Roglič can be quite passive aggressive though, so it might take him half a year to release a statement saying it was all Fred Wright's fault. The best he can hope is probably that Vingegaard dedicates the stage win to him.

But he should definitely attack today, and then we'll see what happens.
 
Apr 8, 2023
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I'm looking forward to seeing how the youngsters do. Lenny M, if he's got some energy left, could do well in the break. I think the break might take the win as the GC guys will be more interested in riding tempo then trying to attack on crazy steep percentages.
 
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Jul 20, 2023
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think Vingegaard will stay with Kuss and ride with him to the finish unless Kuss has a real crisis

Roglic should attack first like Vingegaard did on Tourmalet and like he could have tried yesterday
 
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May 18, 2023
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I think Evenepoel had more chance to win yesterday. A 4 K climb. I know he had decided not to go for the win to loose extra minutes. Allowing him to go in the break today. But nothing happened yesterday. Only Vingegaard attacked, but it was not that impressive. The other GC-contenders (hallo Mas, Ayuso, why you didn't attack or counterattack ?) did almost "surplace". Fisher-Black (not a topclimber or GC-rider) was second and could hold long time at 100 m. I think Evenepoel had outsprinted Vingegaard.
I'm not sure Evenepoel will be allowed in the break by Jumbo. It's also possible other riders will not want to go with Evenepoel in the break. The efforts to get away in vain in a break will kill hem, not allowing him to keep the wheel of the Jumbo's, Ayuso, Mas etc. during the final km of the Angliru.
 
May 29, 2019
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I wonder on how comfortable will the atmosphere tonight in JV camp. Eating the cake and signing long live the king. This is something i would watch on Netflix

P.S. Tour was over by now and Vuelta has just started?
 
Aug 9, 2021
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I can't see anyone but Jonas sealing it today. Maybe some breakaway. I am happy to be wrong. Please make me wrong 🤕
 
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If its every man for himself in the Jumbo camp, we might have a very interesting stage to follow. Vingegård should be the favourite for the stage, unless the break makes it until the finish which I doubt.
 
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Ok guys, so I refuse to accept that in 2023 a team can win the whole podium of a Grand Tour. One of them will crack big time today and Angliru is the perfect place to do it. Who will it be? Vingebot, The Pride of Colorado or The Ski Jumper?
 
Sep 12, 2022
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Ok guys, so I refuse to accept that in 2023 a team can win the whole podium of a Grand Tour. One of them will crack big time today and Angliru is the perfect place to do it. Who will it be? Vingebot, The Pride of Colorado or The Ski Jumper?
Mas and Ayuso didn't look that impressive yesterday, I would prepare yourself for disappointment today
 
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Ok guys, so I refuse to accept that in 2023 a team can win the whole podium of a Grand Tour. One of them will crack big time today and Angliru is the perfect place to do it. Who will it be? Vingebot, The Pride of Colorado or The Ski Jumper?
Kuss and Rog will both bonk.
 
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Remco is thousands of minutes behind, a complete non entity in the race and half the posts are about him. When will it stop
If you are unlucky it could be 15 years from now. Maybe AI can filter out all the messages about him at some point and give you personally the impression that he doesn't exist? Until then, please watch your stress level.
 
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If you are unlucky it could be 15 years from now. Maybe AI can filter out all the messages about him at some point and give you personally the impression that he doesn't exist? Until then, please watch your stress level.

15 years from now we'll be seeing AI riders created in a factory with metal endoskeletons & synthetic skin.

Dope controls will involve using magnets to detect them.
 
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Normally, we will see favorites explode or at least lose (a lot of) time today. Surprisingly, only a few days before Madrid, and only for the second time . The first time was Evenepoel. One of the reasons is, I think, several favorites (but less favorites than the Jumboriders) haven't done a lot. Not taking risks, not attacking (just a little accelaration and stop after seconds because there is another rider in the wheel). Not attacking from far. Only Ayuso tried once on a penultimate climb.
I guess one of the three Jumbo's will fail. Also Uijtdebroeks and Soler. Maybe Almeida or Mas. Evenepoel is not a GC-contender anymore. But I'm not sure he has a chance to win the stage. After the resting day, not even climbing at full speed during the last 4 km yesterday. Not wise. He risks to have bad legs today. Maybe not as bad comparing to the Tourmalet-stage. But bad enough and not able to follow the better climbers.
 
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