Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 2: Mataró - Barcelona, 181.8k

[Ricco']

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695751134466511317

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Special envoys to Barcelona had this as to what made Jonas walk into Movistar bus to talk with Enric.

'Yo, mi mate Mas, no puede ser this way. Usted quieres Roglic con bonis? Habla por favor con tu boss Eusebio and pidele qué hable con Guillen..."

 

[Nick2413]

What a farce. The writing has been on the wall for a while, cycling can’t survive our new safetyist and knee jerk society. I won’t be watching much of this race. No point getting excited about a stage if the odds are they’ll neuter it if it rains.

 

[RedheadDane]

Cadel and Vinokurov looking like they've just ridden through hell seems so long ago

It was...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Worst start to a GT I can remember. God the horror show, basically two days of absolute nothing and so easily avoidable.

 

[Bonimenier]

Worst start to a GT I can remember. God the horror show, basically two days of absolute nothing and so easily avoidable.

Did you forget the first 19 stages of the Giro?

 

[Valv.Piti]

Did you forget the first 19 stages of the Giro?

I suppose you can't read? Start of a GT. That means.. the start.

 

[Bonimenier]

I suppose you can't read? Start of a GT. That means.. the start.

First 19 stages were the start. Last 2 were the end.

 

[Valv.Piti]

What about bonus seconds on the top of Montjuic and the finish?

 

[Izzyeviel]

The Giro was far worse. 'This descent is too dangerous! we refuse to race down it' 'how about we shorten the stage instead but the descent stays?' 'DEAL!!'

I'm all for giving the riders what they want when it comes to safety. but they do make themselves look like idiots at times. But better to be an idiot than in a ditch. I don't mind what they're doing today, no-ones going to remember this stage in a few weeks. They identified a problem before the stage started, did something about it & will still put on a show for the fans watching from the road. A good solution.

 

[hayneplane]

F*ck me. Just gross.

Some of these w*nkers in the peloton won't be happy until stages are on wide straight roads with an uphill where they unleash their watts.

Shame on the whingers who played the 'safety card' & cried to get the GC times cancelled.

The logical endpoint to this is a Grand Tour in UAE and Saudi with the big mountain climbs having motorway standard tarmac and width the size of a small ocean.

A decent looking early race stage has been rendered a pointless and unpleasant club ride in wet weather gear for zero gain as the stage win will be a tainted prize.

 

[Berflamand]

So what happens in the fight for red in this situation?

DSM and Movistar guys to sprint at the 9k to go mark because first one gets the red jersey?

Or maybe Movistar isn't interested in red at this point and has assured DSM they will not try to take it. (But they will probably still try to keep Mas in front and out of harm's way so they might take it 'accidentally')

 

[yaco]

I am more worried whether the finish will be rideable if the rain continues unabated.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

So what happens in the fight for red in this situation?

DSM and Movistar guys to sprint at the 9k to go mark because first one gets the red jersey?

Or maybe Movistar isn't interested in red at this point and has assured DSM they will not try to take it. (But they will probably still try to keep Mas in front and out of harm's way so they might take it 'accidentally')

Only if they could get a time gap, the stage result is still settled at the finish.

 

[roundabout]

Oh, right, if the hundreds from the TTT are not counted than the lead jersey can be decided by who wants to risk it more in the neutralized part? Is that right?

 

[Ricco']

This is what happens when La Vuelta starts their stages before CPA's president bed time. Yesterday was a good case for stages starting in the end of the day.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695542592568435104

View: https://twitter.com/HansenAdam/status/1695542592568435104

 

[search]

Only if they could get a time gap, the stage result is still settled at the finish.

so if the breakaway stays ahead until 9k to go, Piccolo (+0:06) may take the jersey.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

"A road bike race is an event where people competing against each other cycle out in all kinds of terrains, road conditions and weather. It's up to the riders to negotiate any extra leg braces."

This has been my POV since I was a kid in the 70s.
However, yesterday was different with unequal competition, riders starting at different timeslots and very different circumstances.

Today they are back to normal. All equally worthless, deemed to obey the circumstances.
Stop nanny nonsense.

 

[Berflamand]

Only if they could get a time gap, the stage result is still settled at the finish.

Ah thanks, so if DSM wants to make sure they keep the jersey they will have to battle it out until the finish to make sure they end in front of any of the Movistar riders in the same time?

 

[Rackham]

I am more worried whether the finish will be rideable if the rain continues unabated.

And this is a different issue, i.e. if there's torrents of water in quasi flood type conditions, then stop the stage.

But if "danger" means GC teams are worried there "could" be crashes on wet, slippery roads, then the solution is simple: ride slower and accept the time loss versus riders who take some risks.

 

[Netserk]

Oh, right, if the hundreds from the TTT are not counted than the lead jersey can be decided by who wants to risk it more in the neutralized part? Is that right?

Yes. As the TTT doesn't count for the accumulated stage rankings, whoever of the first 11 riders in GC crosses the finish-line first today will take red.

 

[roundabout]

Ah thanks, so if DSM wants to make sure they keep the jersey they will have to battle it out until the finish to make sure they end in front of any of the Movistar riders in the same time?

That would be my understanding of the situation

 

[DNP-Old]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695763082260123761

View: https://twitter.com/BorjaCuadrado/status/1695763082260123761


Just cancel this shit.

 

[roundabout]

Yes. As the TTT doesn't count for the accumulated stage rankings, whoever of the first 11 riders in GC crosses the finish-line first today will take red.

Cool.

Although I have no idea where the bonuses will or will not be now,

 

[Izzyeviel]

And this is a different issue, i.e. if there's torrents of water in quasi flood type conditions, then stop the stage.

But if "danger" means GC teams are worried there "could" be crashes on wet, slippery roads, then the solution is simple: ride slower and accept the time loss versus riders who take some risks.

If only it worked like that. Tao, G, Roglic had a big crash in the Giro taking it easy peasy on a descent. Ended Tao's season.

 

[Bonimenier]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695763082260123761

View: https://twitter.com/BorjaCuadrado/status/1695763082260123761


Just cancel this shit.

I see no rain. What are they complaining about?