Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 8: Dénia - Xorret de Catí, 165.0k

[Andy schleck]

after wheelsucking for numerous km whil in numerical majority...

Vintage roglic 😂

 

[balac]

Ayuso: I've had a really bad day. I'm very happy that I saved the day. I told the team that I was struggling a lot in the middle of the stage.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Ayuso probably looked the weakest out of him, Evenepoel, Roglic, Vingegaard and Mas. You have to wonder if any of them will regret not even trying to make a move once we get to his favoured terrain.

 

[Red Rick]

"How many leaders does Jumbo have?"

"At least three"

 

[Mayomaniac]

You would think Movistar would send their best DSes to their home Grand Tour, but sadly not..

Sciandri is lucky if they even send him to the Giro, despite his track record of winning it with the Carapaz-Landa combinations.
When it comes to ds selection at Movistar nepotism and tradition are more important than ability and actual results...

 

[Netserk]

 

[Volderke]

Remco couldn't drop them but this was not a climb to try to drop them. The only way Remco can drop Jumbo is to attack when there is no more than Roglic and Vingegaard, do a hard attack that creates some separation (not even uphill, just in a rolling part) and try to widen the gap with his TT skills. That really seems the only way and that's also the most difficult way to tactically pull off.
Uphill, Remco won't drop them (maybe the contrary). Remco needs an ambush, but with such a Jumbo team, chances are very slim.

By the way: Sepp Kuss: congratulations for that red jersey...! I would be super stoked if he keeps it until Madrid!

 

[Lequack]

after wheelsucking for numerous km whil in numerical majority...

There's wheelsucking and there's hanging on. Hard to say which one unless you know if riders were on the limit. Vinge also didn't do any attacking.

 

[saunaking]

This is what he does best and how he wins races. Just a strong pace and ride people off the wheel, or at least prevent attacks, like today. If he didn't go all out either Kuss would go away or they would do a 1-2 with Vinge and Roglic. So as along as he has the power to do this he should do good.

I dont think he went all out. Nice tempo day, feeling better, over his sickness. Too many bees around and too short a climb to risk an attack.
Well managed!

 

[benzwire]

Roglic surprisingly not his usual stoic self.

Must be for Netflix...

Yeah he seemed really happy and relaxed. He's usually quite dull in these post-race interviews. He should be more animated like today. It suits him well!

 

[nightowl]

Tell me more.

Wow that was quick…

Anyway I’m glad I was wrong and that Remco appears to have gotten over whatever it was that was hindering him the other day

 

[Lequack]

Ayuso: I've had a really bad day. I'm very happy that I saved the day. I told the team that I was struggling a lot in the middle of the stage.

If this was hid bad day, everyone watch out.

 

[Scarponi]

Remco strongest today?😂 the level of this vuelta is low compared to the tour, even soler was in the group of favorites.

Three riders came back to his pace lol couldn’t have been that strong

 

[Volderke]

Remco strongest today?😂 the level of this vuelta is low compared to the tour, even soler was in the group of favorites.

Every time Remco accelerated to try and see if JV riders would drop, Soler was dropped.
Remco then slowed down a bit, Soler was allowed to come back. Just watch a race with some focus.

 

[BigCoward]

Not the way GT wants to go out. No idea why they still have bernal babysitting him.

 

[movingtarget]

Roglic surprisingly not his usual stoic self.

Must be for Netflix...

One gel too many........

 

[Berniece]

Yes, but nowhere to be seen just sounds like you‘re blind.

A bit of an exaggeration, but this wasn’t the plan. At least we get an exciting Vuelta now

 

[Gargamel35]

Best part was Vinge celebraiting Roglič win, when he crossed the line.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

32			Bernal Egan	INEOS Grenadiers	​	+ 03:32​
33			Thomas Geraint	INEOS Grenadiers	​	+ 03:32​

 

[perico]

Ayuso probably looked the weakest out of him, Evenepoel, Roglic, Vingegaard and Mas. You have to wonder if any of them will regret not even trying to make a move once we get to his favoured terrain.

Mas looked perfectly fine going uphill, considering he’s admitted that he’s not 100% due to his TDF injuries and training crash.

Going downhill… ouch. That was painful to watch His problem is that riders like Remco and Roglic are able to gain seconds every time there is a sprint for bonus seconds. Those start to add up.

 

[Volderke]

Three riders came back to his pace lol couldn’t have been that strong

Roglic didn't have anything left when Remco accelerated with 300mtrs to the top. The fact the whole team worked and JV didn't dare to attack besides Kuss who was very reliefed he made it over the top in the front group, indicates that the pace was very high.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Sciandri is lucky if they even send him to the Giro, despite his track record of winning it with the Carapaz-Landa combinations.
When it comes to ds selection at Movistar nepotism and tradition are more important than ability and actual results...

Yea but nepotism and tradition should also mean Lastras gets a spot, he's been in the setup for 28 years (Banesto amateur from 1995 to 1997, Banesto/Illes Balears/Caisse d'Epargne/Movistar from 1998 to 2015 and in the team car since 2016) and is actually a good DS.

Much as though Txente's work as a domestique was revered, the guy is basically a driver with a microphone.

 

[dazaau]

I dont think he went all out. Nice tempo day, feeling better, over his sickness. Too many bees around and too short a climb to risk an attack.
Well managed!

He road very smart. If he had been sucked into chasing/covering attacks he was screwed. Handled that kuss attack like a champ.

 

[Lequack]

Not the way GT wants to go out. No idea why they still have bernal babysitting him.

Yes I feel bad for him, crashed twice already, and losing Thymen. Hopefully Ineos regather themselves and go for stages with Bernal or even Thomas.

 

[Rob5091]

2 seconds between top 8 on the stage says it all. Remco showed he did not mind leading up the climb but we don't know what Jumbo were feeling - just following? Glad to see Ayuso hanging on - could be a good sign for next week. Young Lenny M lost the red jersey but still did well.