Vuelta a España Vuelta España 2023 stage 10, Valladolid - Valladolid 25.6km ITT

[ontheroad]

The GC looks very interesting now. I'd make Roglic slight favourite followed by Remco after todays results. UAE have a few cards to play still also and I still think Ayuso is their biggest threat on GC when it comes to the big mountain stages ahead.

 

[jaylew]

Kuss still having 1:09 on Remco is big. JV can sit back and make Remco and QS work and hope Roglic can take advantage. Vinge will be a wildcard.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Think Vingegaard was flying too early in the season, El Perro was bad early in 2017 and rode himself slowly into form.

Problem is he couldn't really risk being 90% against Pogacar in the tour.

 

[Didinho]

Landa dropped out of the top 10

But he had the best leadout today.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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LANDA Mikel

Bahrain - Victorious

3:21

 

[Poursuivant]

So the secret to unleashing GT Kuss is having him work for two GTs previously...poor fella.

This is just training for the Giro

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Disappointing ride for Uijdtebroeks, losing to Martinez

 

[Didinho]

Team Soler impressive.

 

[Scarponi]

Think Vingegaard was flying too early in the season, El Perro was bad early in 2017 and rode himself slowly into form.

Problem is he couldn't really risk being 90% against Pogacar in the tour.

Any double with the Tour in it is going to be impossible with Pogacar attacking every mole hill

 

[Peyroteo94]

Think Vingegaard was flying too early in the season, El Perro was bad early in 2017 and rode himself slowly into form.

Problem is he couldn't really risk being 90% against Pogacar in the tour.

Lol, of course not. Pogacar was even with Vingegaard in the first two weeks. Maybe his third week was hampered by his suboptimal preparation. By no chance Vingegaard can't be in his peak shape against Pogacar.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Think Vingegaard was flying too early in the season, El Perro was bad early in 2017 and rode himself slowly into form.

Problem is he couldn't really risk being 90% against Pogacar in the tour.

Vingegaard was pretty bad in Paris-Nice, it's really only been three stage races where he was anywhere near flying and two of those weren't against any of Pogacar, Roglic, Evenepoel or even someone like Ayuso so you have to question whether he was truly flying there.

 

[noob]

Vingo and Rogla all ribs no abs. (Not body shaming them though, it's what their sport requires.)

Yes no body shaming of any living being ever from me. It's just I was just so surprised about Remco. I haven't seen any cyclist with abs before. Not even Wout lol. I thought abs would weigh too much?!

 

[Eyeballs Out]

GCN lamenting the terrible luck of Thomas as if he was in GC contention or ever had a chance of finishing within a minute of Ganna

 

[noob]

Lol Ganna is such a mellow guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Maybe he took lessons from Thao 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[tobydawq]

Disappointing ride for Uijdtebroeks, losing to Martinez

Maybe not the improved version of Remco after all.

 

[steffr222]

Roglic big fav now, at least for me. Remco seems to be quite disappointed, hard times for him to come in the high mountains, I guess.

Don’t really think that Kuss beeing still in red is an advantage for Jumbo though

 

[KZD]

Ganna gained the most on him in the hilliest part.
Hot take, but on a constant 2-3% uphill drag itt Ganna might gain the most on the aero bullet.

I think he gained more time on the corners, this TT didn't actually have an uphill drag but a short steep climb. But I agree that on those gradients, especially if technical Ganna > Evenepoel.

Kuss and Soler with heroic rides. They are still in the game especially Kuss that is the better climber of the two.

Remco with a bittersweet day, he didn't win the stage though Ganna takes all the credit there and gained less time than expected on Kuss, Roglič and even Almeida but gained more time than I expected on Mas, Ayuso and Vingegård that lost more than a minute to Remco, a really bad day.

 

[Filippo_3467]

Disappointing ride for Uijdtebroeks, losing to Martinez

i would say as expected. Both can't TT at the moment, so it was clear it's only a few seconds left or right.

 

[Didinho]

Yes no body shaming of any living being ever from me. It's just I was just so surprised about Remco. I haven't seen any cyclist with abs before. Not even Wout lol. I thought abs would weigh too much?!

With his football background, the abs are there. Maybe it’s an advantage now for holding his aero position.

 

[Elos Anjos]

TT not quite long enough for Remco.

Was gaining on Ganna at the end

There's a name for what you have.

 

[Scarponi]

There's a name for what you have.

Roglic derangement syndrome?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Vingo needs to start doing work for Kuss now.

 

[search]

i would say as expected. Both can't TT at the moment, so it was clear it's only a few seconds left or right.

no idea if this is still the case, but earlier in the season Martinez said that he trains on the time trial bike every week.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Yes no body shaming of any living being ever from me. It's just I was just so surprised about Remco. I haven't seen any cyclist with abs before. Not even Wout lol. I thought abs would weigh too much?!

I suppose it depends on the discipline, sprinters are usually well-built hulks while the climbers look nice from the waist down. (Their legs I mean! ) Remco is a bit of an outlier.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Vingegaard was pretty bad in Paris-Nice, it's really only been three stage races where he was anywhere near flying and two of those weren't against any of Pogacar, Roglic, Evenepoel or even someone like Ayuso so you have to question whether he was truly flying there.

His climbing numbers were insane in Gran Camino and Basque iirc, and there was some sort of personal issue before Paris-Nice if he is to be believed, competition not on the very top level granted but even so it's night and day between his level and what Froome's was in early 2017.

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What's more concerning like has been said is that Kuss and Soler look better than him, who both rode the tour at a high level before this.