Vuelta a España Vuelta España 2023 stage 10, Valladolid - Valladolid 25.6km ITT

[SHAD0W93]

Even if Evenepoel dominates, no GC rider is losing anywhere near 5 minutes to him/4:40 to Vingegaard on a route this short.

Someone’s going to have a bad day off the rest day plus the vehicle support situation at the top. Something crazy is happening, just don’t know what.

 

[houtdffan]

Heart/Brain: Evenepoel domination
Dark Horse: Vinge domination
Meme potential: TT neutralized or Kuss dominates


Stage winner Evenepoel
10-30 secs Vinge
20-40 secs Almeida
40-60 secs Roglic
1-2 mins Ayuso, Vlasov, Mas
3-5 mins Soler, Kuss, Landa, and L Martinez

nobody is gaining 3 to 5 minutes on a 25 km TT

This is not the 2015 giro TT

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Remco
Roglic +20”
Vingegaard +25”
Ayuso + 38”
Almeida + 42”
Mas +45”
Kuss +1’45”

 

[Tricycle Rider]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACg5W_nCniU

 

[Cookster15]

nobody is gaining 3 to 5 minutes on a 25 km TT

This is not the 2015 giro TT

I tend to agree but we don’t need to look as far back as the the 2015 Giro. The 2023 TdF TT was only 22km and look what Vingegaard did in just 33 minutes. But with the Tour in his legs I would be shocked if Vingo can repeat what he did at the Tour to Pogacar to a fresh Remco on a perfect course for Remco.

Remco to win the stage
2nd Roglic
3rd Vingegaard

I will not predict time gaps.

 

[IndurainsTdF1994]

Olympics > Worlds

 

[rokovski]

Remcos DS will not tell him that Roglič is faster, Remco lose again because DS.

 

[theyoungest]

I tend to agree but we don’t need to look as far back as the the 2015 Giro. The 2023 TdF TT was only 22km and look what Vingegaard did in just 33 minutes. But with the Tour in his legs I would be shocked if Vingo can repeat what he did at the Tour to Pogacar to a fresh Remco on a perfect course for Remco.

Remco to win the stage
2nd Roglic
3rd Vingegaard

I will not predict time gaps.

Even with his Tour legs Vingegaard wouldn't take 2 minutes in this TT. That was purely a result of the course. Right now it seems he just has base level, not great, not bad, and I expect his TT to be likewise. Third of the GC guys seems just about right, although Ayuso might have something to say about that.

I think Remco will take at least half a minute on him.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

I hope Sepp Kuss will surprise us.

Back in the days, when he was GC leader, even Pantani showed nice ITTs. I hope it‘s the same for Kuss tomorrow.

In recent past, you always knew that it‘s Vuelta time of the year when the 58kg Spanish climbers equaled Cancellara‘s and Tony Martin‘s finishing times in even the flat ITTs.

I don’t really know, for example, what is Enric Mas‘ „problem“ in the flat time trials. He has the exactly same weight as Remco, and was 2.9 kms/hr slower than him in last year’s Vuelta ITT (flat). I would be very interested to get to know the reasons why Mas until now failed to become a very good stage race time trialist. Every year, I hope he has improved, but every year, I notice he is three or four kms/hr slower than the winners, in these stage race time trials. I hope he‘s good tomorrow - otherwise final podium will be hard to achieve.

 

[Volderke]

Spoiler: I already received the results of the TT.

Current GC
KUSS Sepp	35:23:30
SOLER Marc	0:43
MARTINEZ Lenny	1:02
EVENEPOEL Remco	2:22
LANDA Mikel	2:29
ROGLIČ Primož	,,
VINGEGAARD Jonas	2:33
MAS Enric	,,
AYUSO Juan	2:43
ALMEIDA João	2:55
TT
EVENEPOEL Remco
ROGLIČ Primož	0:40
VINGEGAARD Jonas	0:50
ALMEIDA João	0:55
AYUSO Juan	1:00
SOLER Marc	1:30
MAS Enric	1:45
KUSS Sepp	1:50
LANDA Mikel	2:30
MARTINEZ Lenny	3:00
after TT
KUSS Sepp	35:23:30
SOLER Marc	0:23
EVENEPOEL Remco	0:32
ROGLIČ Primož	1:19
VINGEGAARD Jonas	1:33
AYUSO Juan	1:57
ALMEIDA João	2:00
MARTINEZ Lenny	2:12
MAS Enric	2:28
LANDA Mikel	3:09

 

[IndurainsTdF1994]

Spoiler: I already received the results of the TT.

Current GC
KUSS Sepp	35:23:30
SOLER Marc	0:43
MARTINEZ Lenny	1:02
EVENEPOEL Remco	2:22
LANDA Mikel	2:29
ROGLIČ Primož	,,
VINGEGAARD Jonas	2:33
MAS Enric	,,
AYUSO Juan	2:43
ALMEIDA João	2:55
TT
EVENEPOEL Remco
ROGLIČ Primož	0:40
VINGEGAARD Jonas	0:50
ALMEIDA João	0:55
AYUSO Juan	1:00
SOLER Marc	1:30
MAS Enric	1:45
KUSS Sepp	1:50
LANDA Mikel	2:30
MARTINEZ Lenny	3:00
after TT
KUSS Sepp	35:23:30
SOLER Marc	0:23
EVENEPOEL Remco	0:32
ROGLIČ Primož	1:19
VINGEGAARD Jonas	1:33
AYUSO Juan	1:57
ALMEIDA João	2:00
MARTINEZ Lenny	2:12
MAS Enric	2:28
LANDA Mikel	3:09

Amazingly round numbers. The Vuelta staff / ASO f'ed up, again? 🧐

Anyway, I just hope no assaults on female spectators happen after the finish line (or anywhere, for that matter). 😇

 

[Berniece]

Evenpoel really is lucky Landa is starting in front of him, might gain him an extra 10s on the competition

 

[KZD]

Olympics > Worlds

Is that your way of telling us Roglic will beat Remco in this TT?

 

[Red Rick]

I hope Sepp Kuss will surprise us.

Back in the days, when he was GC leader, even Pantani showed nice ITTs. I hope it‘s the same for Kuss tomorrow.

In recent past, you always knew that it‘s Vuelta time of the year when the 58kg Spanish climbers equaled Cancellara‘s and Tony Martin‘s finishing times in even the flat ITTs.

I don’t really know, for example, what is Enric Mas‘ „problem“ in the flat time trials. He has the exactly same weight as Remco, and was 2.9 kms/hr slower than him in last year’s Vuelta ITT (flat). I would be very interested to get to know the reasons why Mas until now failed to become a very good stage race time trialist. Every year, I hope he has improved, but every year, I notice he is three or four kms/hr slower than the winners, in these stage race time trials. I hope he‘s good tomorrow - otherwise final podium will be hard to achieve.

Mas is unaero as ***. His seated position is super straight up

 

[RedheadDane]

Mas is unaero as ***. His seated position is super straight up

For some reason I (BRIEFLY!) interpreted that as "His ass is straight up". Which, I don't think would be a very good TTing position...

 

[Berniece]

Is that your way of telling us Roglic will beat Remco in this TT?

He probably just means that Carapaz is a better rider than MVDP, Evenepoel and Alaphilippe

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

1. Almeida
2. Ayuso 12''
3. Mas 22''
4. Vingegaard 22''
5. Roglic 26''
6. Landa 26''
7. Evenepoel 33''
8. Lenny 1'53''
9. Soler 2'12''
10. Kuss 2'55

This arranged by Unipublic in order to reset 1st week of haywire.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

3-5 mins Soler, Kuss, Landa, and L Martinez

This ITT route is not quite a Combloux spectacle, rather mostly flat with non-complex 90° corners, so personally I don't expect 5 min losses by GC guys for a distance of 26k

 

[Red Rick]

I think Almeida, Roglic and Ayuso will be the best of the rest behind Evenepoel but theyre all gonna drop around 40s.

Vingegaard will drop over a minute I think

 

[tobydawq]

I think Almeida, Rogluc amd Ayuso eillbbe the best of the rest behind Evenepoel but theyre all gonna drop around 40s.

Vingegaard will drop over a minute I think

Not your best work

 

[IndurainsTdF1994]

Is that your way of telling us Roglic will beat Remco in this TT?

As always, I will reveal my answer after the stage is completed. Sorry for the suspense.

(Note that it could also means that the time of the Olympics TT winner will be greater than the time of the Worlds TT winner.)

 

[peterfin]

1. Evenepoel
2. Vingegaard 45'' (I think he is not top)
3. Almeida 55''
4. Ayuso 1'00''
5. Roglic 1'05''
6. Mas 1'10''
8. Kuss 2'30''

(Kuss can do a bit better but the JV strategy will be to put Remco in red if they see that he would do significant better than V&R to pressure him and his team)

 

[Peyroteo94]

Landani will wait for his future boss to help him. Never thought he could possibly be useful in time trials to his leader

 

[Berniece]

1. Evenepoel
5. Roglic 1'05''

Roglic seems in better form than last year, and even then it was only +40s that Evenepoel took on Roglic. Would be very surprised if it's more than 1min, but on the other hand, Roglic's TT's haven't been what they used to.

 

[topcat]

I think Almeida, Roglic and Ayuso will be the best of the rest behind Evenepoel but theyre all gonna drop around 40s.

Vingegaard will drop over a minute I think

Correcting typos should be beneath you.