tweak37 said:Chris Froome @chrisfroome
Looking forward to taking on the @lavuelta
Tough but always exciting for the viewers #bringiton
Seems like a conformation to me...
Yup.
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tweak37 said:Chris Froome @chrisfroome
Looking forward to taking on the @lavuelta
Tough but always exciting for the viewers #bringiton
Seems like a conformation to me...
Hugo Koblet said:How is a guy who's never done a GT before gonna win against Rodriguez, Valverde, Quintana, Froome, TJVG, Aru, Landa, Nibali and Pozzovivo? Although he did beat Bookwalter and Woods convincingly in UtahLanLions said:Son of Amsterhammer said:infeXio said:LanLions said:Got some money on Schleck, would be silly not to at 350/1. Can't believe he's still on them odds. Even after Utah Dombrowski is at 200/1, bookies really have no idea about cycling
hard to see Schleck winning it.
200/1 for a guy who took Utah convincingly is ridiculous. Both guys are outsiders but an each way bet is definitely worth it on them odds.
Totally agree. I'm not a betting man but that screams tempting.
They're all way more likely to win, podium, top 5 or top 10 than Dombrowski.LanLions said:Hugo Koblet said:How is a guy who's never done a GT before gonna win against Rodriguez, Valverde, Quintana, Froome, TJVG, Aru, Landa, Nibali and Pozzovivo? Although he did beat Bookwalter and Woods convincingly in UtahLanLions said:Son of Amsterhammer said:infeXio said:hard to see Schleck winning it.
200/1 for a guy who took Utah convincingly is ridiculous. Both guys are outsiders but an each way bet is definitely worth it on them odds.
Totally agree. I'm not a betting man but that screams tempting.
I've seen enough Vuelta's to know that only Valverde, Pozzovivo and TJVG out of the names you mentioned might challenge over three weeks in Spain. It seems that every year everyone seems to forget about fatigue and are surprised when someone who USUALLY hasn't already completed a GT wins or finishes on the podium.. And this years Tour and Giro were harder than usual.. The favorites might come out fighting in the first week but they won't be able to maintain it.
SeriousSam said:Great news. The Double is on. If anyone can win the Tour and another GT in the same year, it's surely Froome.
I've seen enough Vuelta's to know that only Valverde, Pozzovivo and TJVG out of the names you mentioned might challenge over three weeks in Spain. It seems that every year everyone seems to forget about fatigue and are surprised when someone who USUALLY hasn't already completed a GT wins or finishes on the podium.. And this years Tour and Giro were harder than usual.. The favorites might come out fighting in the first week but they won't be able to maintain it.
infeXio said:I've seen enough Vuelta's to know that only Valverde, Pozzovivo and TJVG out of the names you mentioned might challenge over three weeks in Spain. It seems that every year everyone seems to forget about fatigue and are surprised when someone who USUALLY hasn't already completed a GT wins or finishes on the podium.. And this years Tour and Giro were harder than usual.. The favorites might come out fighting in the first week but they won't be able to maintain it.
Be that as it may - he's still not going to win, though.
He's 500:1 at some bookies. 200:1 is not ridiculous.LanLions said:infeXio said:I've seen enough Vuelta's to know that only Valverde, Pozzovivo and TJVG out of the names you mentioned might challenge over three weeks in Spain. It seems that every year everyone seems to forget about fatigue and are surprised when someone who USUALLY hasn't already completed a GT wins or finishes on the podium.. And this years Tour and Giro were harder than usual.. The favorites might come out fighting in the first week but they won't be able to maintain it.
Be that as it may - he's still not going to win, though.
The original point was that 200/1 is ridiculous, which it is, even Sanchez has better odds
Cannondale should ride a decent Vuelta TTT for a startTMP402 said:LanLions said:Son of Amsterhammer said:infeXio said:LanLions said:Got some money on Schleck, would be silly not to at 350/1. Can't believe he's still on them odds. Even after Utah Dombrowski is at 200/1, bookies really have no idea about cycling
Well.. Dombrowski won't win the Vuelta...
hard to see Schleck winning it.
200/1 for a guy who took Utah convincingly is ridiculous. Both guys are outsiders but an each way bet is definitely worth it on them odds.
Those are absolutely defensible odds for a young, extremely skinny GT debutant with a history of injury problems and a very ordinary track record in ITTs (let alone 40km ones), who only has 5 top 20s in WT stages (not overall, just stages). He has only cracked 10th place in a WT stage once in his three years as a pro. It would require so many unbelievable things to happen.
LanLions said:infeXio said:I've seen enough Vuelta's to know that only Valverde, Pozzovivo and TJVG out of the names you mentioned might challenge over three weeks in Spain. It seems that every year everyone seems to forget about fatigue and are surprised when someone who USUALLY hasn't already completed a GT wins or finishes on the podium.. And this years Tour and Giro were harder than usual.. The favorites might come out fighting in the first week but they won't be able to maintain it.
Be that as it may - he's still not going to win, though.
The original point was that 200/1 is ridiculous, which it is, even Sanchez has better odds
LanLions said:Hugo Koblet said:How is a guy who's never done a GT before gonna win against Rodriguez, Valverde, Quintana, Froome, TJVG, Aru, Landa, Nibali and Pozzovivo? Although he did beat Bookwalter and Woods convincingly in UtahLanLions said:Son of Amsterhammer said:infeXio said:hard to see Schleck winning it.
200/1 for a guy who took Utah convincingly is ridiculous. Both guys are outsiders but an each way bet is definitely worth it on them odds.
Totally agree. I'm not a betting man but that screams tempting.
I've seen enough Vuelta's to know that only Valverde, Pozzovivo and TJVG out of the names you mentioned might challenge over three weeks in Spain. It seems that every year everyone seems to forget about fatigue and are surprised when someone who USUALLY hasn't already completed a GT wins or finishes on the podium.. And this years Tour and Giro were harder than usual.. The favorites might come out fighting in the first week but they won't be able to maintain it.
infeXio said:LanLions said:infeXio said:I've seen enough Vuelta's to know that only Valverde, Pozzovivo and TJVG out of the names you mentioned might challenge over three weeks in Spain. It seems that every year everyone seems to forget about fatigue and are surprised when someone who USUALLY hasn't already completed a GT wins or finishes on the podium.. And this years Tour and Giro were harder than usual.. The favorites might come out fighting in the first week but they won't be able to maintain it.
Be that as it may - he's still not going to win, though.
The original point was that 200/1 is ridiculous, which it is, even Sanchez has better odds
200/1 is not ridiculous at all; TMP already listed a number of reasons why he shouldn't be regarded any higher than that.
Van Garderen didn't finish the Tour and has a point to prove before Porte arrives. Purito was aiming for GC in the tour and failed miserably, he may improve but age seems to have caught up.Van Garderen (who never did 2 consecutive good GT's) yes, but Purito (who did it multiple times, in 2010, 2013 and 2014) no?
LanLions said:Van Garderen didn't finish the Tour and has a point to prove before Porte arrives. Purito was aiming for GC in the tour and failed miserably, he may improve but age seems to have caught up.Van Garderen (who never did 2 consecutive good GT's) yes, but Purito (who did it multiple times, in 2010, 2013 and 2014) no?
Arredondo said:LanLions said:Van Garderen didn't finish the Tour and has a point to prove before Porte arrives. Purito was aiming for GC in the tour and failed miserably, he may improve but age seems to have caught up.Van Garderen (who never did 2 consecutive good GT's) yes, but Purito (who did it multiple times, in 2010, 2013 and 2014) no?
But he won two stages, and the Vuelta is a totally different race.
He will finish higher then Tejay for sure.
LanLions said:Arredondo said:LanLions said:Van Garderen didn't finish the Tour and has a point to prove before Porte arrives. Purito was aiming for GC in the tour and failed miserably, he may improve but age seems to have caught up.Van Garderen (who never did 2 consecutive good GT's) yes, but Purito (who did it multiple times, in 2010, 2013 and 2014) no?
But he won two stages, and the Vuelta is a totally different race.
He will finish higher then Tejay for sure.
I hope so, I'm a fan of Purito, can't see it happening though
Arredondo said:LanLions said:Arredondo said:LanLions said:Van Garderen didn't finish the Tour and has a point to prove before Porte arrives. Purito was aiming for GC in the tour and failed miserably, he may improve but age seems to have caught up.Van Garderen (who never did 2 consecutive good GT's) yes, but Purito (who did it multiple times, in 2010, 2013 and 2014) no?
But he won two stages, and the Vuelta is a totally different race.
He will finish higher then Tejay for sure.
I hope so, I'm a fan of Purito, can't see it happening though
But what's all the fuss about Tejay? The guy is just a regular GC rider who always comes up short. Nothing special imo. He was already towards a collapse before he abandoned due to sickness.
Yeah I can't wait to see the sky train on the andorra stagefungusbear said:Glad Froome is going, makes the race even better.
Hard to say how their shape will be. To be honest, for me the top 5 of the odds list are almost on the same level for me.SeriousSam said:The odds say the following as of now:
***** Quintana, Froome
**** Valverde
*** Aru, Nibali
** Purito, Landa
It's dumb to make predictions before stage 7, especially in a GT like this.SeriousSam said:The odds say the following as of now:
***** Quintana, Froome
**** Valverde
*** Aru, Nibali
** Purito, Landa
* Majka, Pozzo, TJ and other hopeless riders