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Polish said:
Lance was AWESOME as an Amateur,
Lance was AWESOME as a Neo-Pro,
Lance was AWESOME before Ferrari,
Lance was AWESOME during Ferrari,
and Lance was AWESOME after he had to break up with Ferrari.

What's your spin on 1994? Is it also AWESOME?
 

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Bag_O_Wallet said:
What's your spin on 1994? Is it also AWESOME?

Lance suffered the "Curse of the RainBow Jersey" in 1994.
It happens to the best of them:(

But still, he raced Tirreno-Adriatico.
Milan San Remo
Tour of Flanders...along with Greg LeMond...neither finished:(
Liege-Bastogne-Liege....he podiumed
Tried to defend the his WC Jersey at the World Championship...finished 7th

Cool Picture in here...Lance & Greg racing the 1994 Tour of Flanders:

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/updateframesetcall?openform&05la1
 
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Polish said:
Lance suffered the "Curse of the RainBow Jersey" in 1994.
It happens to the best of them:(

But still, he raced Tirreno-Adriatico.
Milan San Remo
Tour of Flanders...along with Greg LeMond...neither finished:(
Liege-Bastogne-Liege....he podiumed
Tried to defend the his WC Jersey at the World Championship...finished 7th

Cool Picture in here...Lance & Greg racing the 1994 Tour of Flanders:

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/updateframesetcall?openform&05la1

Holy crap, the captions from Graham Watson are making me ill. Does this guy have a man crush on Armstrong or what? Sheesh, get a bedroom already.
 
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Polish said:
Lance suffered the "Curse of the RainBow Jersey" in 1994.
It happens to the best of them:(

But still, he raced Tirreno-Adriatico.
Milan San Remo
Tour of Flanders...along with Greg LeMond...neither finished:(
Liege-Bastogne-Liege....he podiumed
Tried to defend the his WC Jersey at the World Championship...finished 7th

Cool Picture in here...Lance & Greg racing the 1994 Tour of Flanders:

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/updateframesetcall?openform&05la1

It's one thing to be marked, and to have a short leash in a road race, but he was still getting spanked here there and everywhere in TTs.
 

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richwagmn said:
Holy crap, the captions from Graham Watson are making me ill. Does this guy have a man crush on Armstrong or what? Sheesh, get a bedroom already.

Graham is the bestest bicycling photographer in the entire worlds.
 

Oncearunner8

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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
You mean including the planets melmac and cybertron? ... Gosh you live in your own bizarre world :rolleyes:

well yeah! I mean graham and the lance are the best in the worlds. That includes the "melmac" and "cybertron" you mention. I think it even includes planets moots and sram?
 

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yellow wrist banzz

Oh my God the yellow baller bandzzz are da bomb ...thank you so much lancey Poo.

You can have my first born and please rock the house at the TDF manno.
 
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Oncearunner8 said:
Oh my God the yellow baller bandzzz are da bomb ...thank you so much lancey Poo.

You need a sockpuppet for that sort of stuff using your usual account just causes apoplexy in the gullible.
 
Polish said:
There is no doubt that Dr Ferrari helped those riders win some of their victories, but there is ZERO evidence to support the Myth that "Doping Transformed Lance into into a 7 Time TdF Winner"

Sweeping the podium at the Fleche for ONE day does not compare to winning the TdF one two three four five six seven times...150 days.

C'mon, Virenque won the King of the Moutains Jersey seven times.
He won Polka Dots BEFORE Ferrari, Polka Dots DURING Ferrari, and Polka Dots AFTER Ferrari.

And what part of Cipo's Illustrious Career was Doctor Ferrari Time?
How many of his record 42 Giro stage wins were won before Ferrari and how many were won after Ferrari?

Hello, evidence of EPIC DOPING TRANSFORMATIONS where are you?

Ok, I will give you Berzin.
He WAS a DONKEY that was transformed into a THOROUGHBRED.
But the Donkey TransFormations are sooo obvious.

But the Myth that "Doping Transformed Lance into into a 7 Time TdF Winner" is just plain laughable. Hardeeharhar.

Lance was AWESOME as an Amateur,
Lance was AWESOME as a Neo-Pro,
Lance was AWESOME before Ferrari,
Lance was AWESOME during Ferrari,
and Lance was AWESOME after he had to break up with Ferrari.

Actually, it's pretty easy to see, if you are unbiased. But I actually think you are being clever & winding people up, because not even the most ardent fan would be so lop-sided.

He wasn't 'awesome', in the true sense of the word, before Ferrari, but he was one of the best at what he did best - one day racing.

Armstrong went from being (pre-Ferrari) a great one day racer who couldn't climb & had shown only moderate ability in time trials, to a guy who out climbed the climbers & out time trialled the time trialists. Cadence doesn't take you from 45kph up to 50kph in time trials. The physicists on this board will tell you how much more power would be required.

Clearly Dr Ferrari transformed him from a one day racer to a 3 week racer.

If you want to believe that it was his training programs, good for you. If I had a cycling hero that transformed so dramatically under Dr Ferrari, I'd like to think that I could put 2 & 2 together.

This is the same sort of transformation that guys like Riis showed when he went onto the good stuff.

I don't think anyone doubts Armstrong has ability on the bike. The same sorts of questions would be asked if Usain Bolt was found to have visited Dr Ferrari, and suddenly stopped winning 100/200m events & started winning 5000/10,000m events. It just wouldn't make sense - logic should tell you that something is up.
 

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Oncearunner8 said:
Oh my God the yellow baller bandzzz are da bomb ....

I was using that thing for endurance with the ladies. It's a little tight tho.

Is that what the warning is about; that this band may cut off circulation to the vitals?

Anyway, all's well that ends well. At least happily..
 
Actually, you know what I find funniest about Armstrong? When he says things like 'having gone through what I have, do you think there is any chance I would put anything into my body that could risk my life?'

When I used to drop my dad off & pick him up from his chemo, i used to see patients sitting outside the hospital, drips in arm, smoking.

Plenty of ex-cancer patients smoke.

For a guy that, by all accounts, would do more than anyone on the planet to make sure he won, his statement is pure comedy.
 
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Nick777 said:
I don't think anyone doubts Armstrong has ability on the bike. The same sorts of questions would be asked if Usain Bolt was found to have visited Dr Ferrari, and suddenly stopped winning 100/200m events & started winning 5000/10,000m events. It just wouldn't make sense - logic should tell you that something is up.

He did visit him and was told to train harder. So logically he pulverized the WR´s in 100/200. If he could only get the right cadence... well then he´ll also pulverize the 5000/10000s...
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
He did visited him and was told to train harder. So logically he pulverized the WR´s in 100/200. If he could only get the right cadence... well then he´ll also pulverize the 5000/10000s...

I think you are on to something... He'll then go for the marathon.
 
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Nick777 said:
.This is the same sort of transformation that guys like Riis showed when he went onto the good stuff.

But Riis doped at 60% hematocrat. Armstrong wasn't anything near 50% last last year and still finished in the top three.

I don't think you can seperate the training and focus after the cancer from the doping matter. It wasn't just one thing.
 
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Eyjafjallajokull said:
But Riis doped at 60% hematocrat. Armstrong wasn't anything near 50% last last year and still finished in the top three.

I don't think you can seperate the training and focus after the cancer from the doping matter. It wasn't just one thing.

Riis did not go to 60%, that was a nickname that was not based on his actual numbers.

It is easy to keep your Hct under 50% with transfusion kits, plasma expanders, and making testers wait for 55 minutes.
 

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Eyjafjallajokull said:
But Riis doped at 60% hematocrat. Armstrong wasn't anything near 50% last last year and still finished in the top three.

I don't think you can seperate the training and focus after the cancer from the doping matter. It wasn't just one thing.

Wow - was Riis racing with a 60% hct last year? Impressive.
 
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Nick777 said:
Actually, you know what I find funniest about Armstrong? When he says things like 'having gone through what I have, do you think there is any chance I would put anything into my body that could risk my life?'

When I used to drop my dad off & pick him up from his chemo, i used to see patients sitting outside the hospital, drips in arm, smoking.

Plenty of ex-cancer patients smoke.

For a guy that, by all accounts, would do more than anyone on the planet to make sure he won, his statement is pure comedy.

you failed to mention how incredibly addictive nicotine is....

further, again, if doping led to his cancer then why was he only moderately sucessful precancer in comparison to his post cancer days ?

and if his tdf victories are a result of doping why hasn't LA's cancer returned ? especially considering how many more years you accuse him of doping for- if his cancer is proof of doping then where is the cancer now ?