how old is Chris Badzilla, 28? guess he will win the tour clean for the next 15 years.BroDeal said:This is what clean cycling looks like.
Too bad Wiggins decided to get off the program. We could have seen what clean cycling looks like at all three GTs.
LOLthe sceptic said:how old is Chris Badzilla, 28? guess he will win the tour clean for the next 15 years.
Not to break up the jealous anonymous loser bawling that will occur in this thread, but power increase has more effect on climbing than TT.jilbiker said:Chris was out of the saddle for almost 6km non-stop. How is this possible??? He has never done anything like this in his career and now does it at 40? I see he seems to be in the best physical shape I have seen him but how did he do that so quickly? So many questions, the ITT will answer it for me. If its juice we will see. He is not a good ITT guy but thats where juice makes a huge difference
Before EPO and before marginal gains, riders used to stay out of the saddle of a long time while climbing.jilbiker said:Chris was out of the saddle for almost 6km non-stop. How is this possible??? He has never done anything like this in his career and now does it at 40? I see he seems to be in the best physical shape I have seen him but how did he do that so quickly? So many questions, the ITT will answer it for me. If its juice we will see. He is not a good ITT guy but thats where juice makes a huge difference
California 2011 was pretty special....jilbiker said:Chris was out of the saddle for almost 6km non-stop. How is this possible??? He has never done anything like this in his career and now does it at 40? I see he seems to be in the best physical shape I have seen him but how did he do that so quickly? So many questions, the ITT will answer it for me. If its juice we will see. He is not a good ITT guy but thats where juice makes a huge difference
Would be nice too see Chris froome accelerating like crazy with his *** on the saddle while Horner on the other hand riding as if he had no saddle.Alphabet said:Coming soon: Horner vs. The Dawg, 2014 Tour.
Who wins?
It is way more believable than a nobody from Africa, who got his clock cleaned during his time as an amateur and an early pro, transforming into dominant tour rider. Horner has history. Horner was good from an early age. Now that the dopers from Sky have cut back on the sauce after the Tour, true talent can shine through.Broth3r said:A simple, theoretical question. Let's imagine a general case here, not just Horner.
You truly do not think (not "believe" - just a bit tired of people judging and damning based on beliefs) that it is technically possible for a 41 year old rider, regardless of his genes, training, season planning, form and under any and all circumstances to pull this performance?
yes, he is clean. Clean cycling means you can peak in your 40s and that younger riders need to dope to catch up.Broth3r said:A simple, theoretical question. Let's imagine a general case here, not just Horner.
You truly do not think (not "believe" - just a bit tired of people judging and damning based on beliefs) that it is technically possible for a 41 year old rider, regardless of his genes, training, season planning, form and under any and all circumstances to pull this performance?
My personal view is that this is possible. Not veryu likely, but not impossible. But then again, the clinic is for bashing great athletes and performances so...Broth3r said:A simple, theoretical question. Let's imagine a general case here, not just Horner.
You truly do not think (not "believe" - just a bit tired of people judging and damning based on beliefs) that it is technically possible for a 41 year old rider, regardless of his genes, training, season planning, form and under any and all circumstances to pull this performance?
Robert Albanjilbiker said:Chris was out of the saddle for almost 6km non-stop. How is this possible??? He has never done anything like this in his career and now does it at 40? I see he seems to be in the best physical shape I have seen him but how did he do that so quickly? So many questions, the ITT will answer it for me. If its juice we will see. He is not a good ITT guy but thats where juice makes a huge difference
He trains harder and smarter than everyone else. That is the benefit of experience. Too bad other riders are stuck training like it is 1970.Shardi said:How does an almost 42 year old, ride like a 90s rider, out of the saddle like that..
They didn't have blood tests or something stupid like that. (As if riders ever use doping that will show up in a blood testShardi said:Horner looked like he did in ToC 2011. Was there any shennanigans with the drug testing responsibility in that edition (who did the testing)? -> Will he get away with the same prep at this race etc.
How does an almost 42 year old, ride like a 90s rider, out of the saddle like that..
Makes lances win at 33 and 4th at 38 look rather normal.