- Mar 10, 2009
Well only one comes to mind and that is Hererra. He rode in the time of Lemond and was a columbian climber. He was feared enough that in big tours the racers went harder on the flat stages to kill his legs.IzzyStradlin said:Were there any "standers" pre-EPO/blood doping? Even just going back to Lemond days, big climbs looked a lot different.
Pantani, Ricco, Horner - What could they have in common?
Gert Jan Thunnise or how ever you spell it was a stander. He got popped for testosterone if I remember correctly.
Dw You say that power is power. well it is delivered differently. for example Cipollini was reported to generate 1200 watts in a sprint. Maybe 30 to 40 seconds max ATP storage. He delivers huge power for a very short time. He was a bigger rider so say 70 to 75 kilos or 16 to 17 watts a KG. more than double the sustained climbing estimates given to GC riders. What is the magic number 6.7 w/kg?
Anecdotally it looks that many good climbers only stand to separate from the group they are riding with ostensibly because they can generate more power for the time they stand.
Now if a rider already has adapted to the stresses of standing such that it is not a penalty, he can stand longer and generate higher power numbers during this period such that average watts/KG are higher over say 15 to 20 minutes rather than the 3 to 5 most sitters can generate.
Add steepness and this can be the weapon Ch has for the steep climbs.
Again a feature of last years Vuelta?
I know of no such research that would support or disprove this idea.
It is one of the obviously different things about his particular abilities and frankly in the face of this conundrum I just wonder how much this rather significant difference in his racing approach than almost all the peloton.