When is the smackdown on Chris Horner?

[blackcat]

cookie have to do genius for getting him a spot with team leadership next yr

 

[SeriousSam]

Too bad he wasn't there. I would have liked to see that! But I'll bet he would have been trying to claw back losses from the ITT.

Would 2013 Horner have been up there with Froome and Contador on the tough climbs? What a spectacle it would have been.

 

[blackcat]

If you can sort through the crazy talk, DiCanio's been right far more than a broken clock tells the correct time.

i put little stock in his anecdote about getting sexually molested by the Hog

 

[GuyIncognito]

Would 2013 Horner have been up there with Froome and Contador on the tough climbs? What a spectacle it would have been.

Judging by his times up the climbs, he wouldn't have been with them, no.
He would've been ahead

 

[del1962]

Judging by his times up the climbs, he wouldn't have been with them, no.
He would've been ahead

Last year 3rd and 4th are same as this year.

Based on time differences from Valverde (yes I know this is pure speculation), Horner would have been ahead of Froome but behind Contador.

 

[Scott SoCal]

Would 2013 Horner have been up there with Froome and Contador on the tough climbs? What a spectacle it would have been.

Agreed.

Too bad he punctured his lung instead of only breaking a leg. Froome getting dropped by AC then only to get smashed by Horner would be worth a watch.

 

[Energy Starr]

Why did RR's post of power and time comparisons disappear?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Judging by his times up the climbs, he wouldn't have been with them, no.
He would've been ahead

Veloclinic's model says he would have been in podium contention. As in, going at it with Froomie and Contador. That would have been comedy gold!

http://veloclinic.tumblr.com/post/97430402418/would-defending-vuelta-champ-horner-have-been-a

 

[Race Radio]

Veloclinic's model says he would have been in podium contention. As in, going at it with Froomie and Contador. That would have been comedy gold!

http://veloclinic.tumblr.com/post/97430402418/would-defending-vuelta-champ-horner-have-been-a

Oh my. 43 year old Horner dropping Contador while Froome stares at his stem, tapping his SRM, muttering "Is this thing broken?"

 

[hrotha]

Where would 2013 Vuelta Nibali have been then? Would he have been stronger than 2014 Tour Nibali according to these numbers?

 

[Granville57]

Veloclinic's model says he would have been in podium contention.
http://veloclinic.tumblr.com/post/97430402418/would-defending-vuelta-champ-horner-have-been-a

Let's not forget this:

“The form is better this year than it was last year,” Horner told reporters last week at the Larry H. Miller Tour of Utah."
http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/news/horner-sports-outsider-status-as-reigning-vuelta-champion_341545

 

[SeriousSam]

Where would 2013 Vuelta Nibali have been then? Would he have been stronger than 2014 Tour Nibali according to these numbers?

This is 2013 Vuelta Nibali (orange):

And this 2014 Tour Nibali:

Vuelta Nibali seems weaker. I certainly believe 2014 Tour Nibali and 2013 Giro Nibali > 2013 Vuelta Nibali. If the models said something else, that'd be one against the models imo.

 

[veganrob]

Let's not forget this:

Well we know Horner wasn't feeing any pain thats for sure

 

[Race Radio]

Vuelta Nibali seems weaker. I certainly believe 2014 Tour Nibali and 2013 Giro Nibali > 2013 Vuelta Nibali. If the models said something else, that'd be one against the models imo.

From most of the numbers I have seen Vuelta Nibali was slower then Tour 14 Nibali. Valverde appears to have been much stronger at Vuelta 13, perhaps the strongest of his career.

 

[Granville57]

Veloclinic's model says he would have been in podium contention.

We were robbed!

 

[Catwhoorg]

Let's not forget this:

Any potential contender is either:

In better form than last year

Recovering from X taking it easy, maybe hoping for a stage win.


Neither statement is to be trusted.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Oh my. 43 year old Horner dropping Contador while Froome stares at his stem, tapping his SRM, muttering "Is this thing broken?"

LMAO. We may see such farce... (even though I hope Horner is either retired, un-signed... or better caught for his ongoing blood doping before such events could take place).

 

[roundabout]

Let's not forget this:

Yeah right.

120th in Quebec and DNF in Montreal say otherwise

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Yeah right.

120th in Quebec and DNF in Montreal say otherwise

I am thinking Lampre busted him pre-Vuelta and he is winding down politely to ride off into a US Conti team until he turns 65.

 

[Granville57]

120th in Quebec and DNF in Montreal say he may have been riding clean for those.

Fixed that.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Yeah right.

120th in Quebec and DNF in Montreal say otherwise

Reminds me of LA. Peaking for a single GT and the pre races, then dissapear in peloton back fodder again (of where they come from before the transfusion period sets in).
He is such a obvious blood doper, it´s a shame the anti doping brigade/MPCC can´t catch him for other than unusal levels of whatever that was he got thrown out before the Vuelta.

 

[veganrob]

I am thinking Lampre busted him pre-Vuelta and he is winding down politely to ride off into a US Conti team until he turns 65.

I think that is pretty close to what happened

 

[Granville57]

I am thinking Lampre busted him pre-Vuelta and he is winding down politely to ride off into a US Conti team until he turns 65.

So that gives him what, two to three years left in his career?

 

[Hawkwood]

So that gives him what, two to three years left in his career?

I'm only a youngster at 53, if I can sort out my programme I could be up there.

 

[Master50]

Reminds me of LA. Peaking for a single GT and the pre races, then dissapear in peloton back fodder again (of where they come from before the transfusion period sets in).
He is such a obvious blood doper, it´s a shame the anti doping brigade/MPCC can´t catch him for other than unusal levels of whatever that was he got thrown out before the Vuelta.

If you ever can tell that for all riders I am sure you'll have a great career at WADA. Glad you are now actually committed to a particular mechanism. I have been waiting on that for a while now. I am optimistic he will be back. Don't suffer it too hard.