Seems more likely but if Pogi decides he is doing Giro then Jonas will IMHO go to Vuelta. Somehow i feel it's indeed more likely Rogla will beat Jonas at Giro and Pogi at the Tour. It doesn't really matter for Rogla on who he will need to beat at what GT, he already decided and announced. We'll see.
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Seems more likely but if Pogi decides he is doing Giro then Jonas will IMHO go to Vuelta. Somehow i feel it's indeed more likely Rogla will beat Jonas at Giro and Pogi at the Tour. It doesn't really matter for Rogla on who he will need to beat at what GT, he already decided and announced. We'll see.
Well, the thread title says "Who is going to announce their 2025 schedule first?" which no one has done yet. I don't see how Roglic "wins" when Pogacar announced the Tour first and then Roglic the Giro and Tour, when neither are their full schedule, but their main objectives.
I don't care who "wins" - I don't even get why it's a competition - I just thought it was quite fun how the Roglic fanbase claim that Roglic was first, when Pogacar announced his main goals before Roglic did.
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@Hugo Koblet
So if you don't care, why are you basically saying then Pogi won? Still deciding:
www.cyclingnews.com
Meanwhile Rogla:
Decided and already announced.
So if you don't care, why are you basically saying then Pogi won? Still deciding:
'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start
Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025
www.cyclingnews.com
Meanwhile Rogla:
Decided and already announced.
I never said Pogacar "won". I said neither have announced their full schedule yet, so how do you decide a winner?@Hugo Koblet
So if you don't care, why are you basically saying then Pogi won? Still deciding:
'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start
Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025
Meanwhile Rogla:
Decided and already announced.
Pogacar outlined his main goals of the season and will decide on the rest of his schedule later.
Roglic outlined his main goals of the season and will decide on the rest of his schedule later.
Pogacar did so before Roglic.
Why does it matter that it's a GT that Pogacar hasn't decided on yet? It's clearly not one of his main goals.
Maybe because the whole point of this thread is on who will decide and announce first?
So bottom line you claim Pogi announced first and i claim Rogla is obviously the one that decided and announced first. Rogla likely decided when still riding for Visma. Anyway, peopel can decide for themself, on who did it first. Decided and announced and on who is still deciding.
This is on why IMHO Pogi and Jonas are still deciding and haven't announced it yet. They don't want to do all that twice in the 2025 season. Meanwhile Rogla isn't losing any sleep over it so the decision and the announcement was already made.
You think he decided his 2025 schedule over a year ahead of time?
I'm not sure if you're being serious or if you're trolling at this point.
The only difference is that Pogacar has yet to decide on whether he's doing another GT, while Roglic is yet to decide on which other non-GT races he's doing.
If, by your logic, Roglic was first, this would imply that it only counts when it's GT's we're discussing.
This would mean that a rider who doesn't do a GT simply doesn't have a schedule.
A schedule is a plan for the races you're planning on doing.
Hence if you don't have a schedule, you don't do any races.
Then by your logic non-GT races aren't races.
I guess we have to wait a few month and some time until the riders respective 2025 schedule is announced, e.g. missing races.
No, not in the slightest. But I do care about nonsensical logical conclusions.
I just find it amusing that someone can be such a fanboy that they’d actually argue that a rider who has announced 4 races was the first to announce their schedule, when there’s another rider who has announced like 14 races and did it earlier. And I find it amusing that it even matters at all.
But hey, all good. You do you.
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@Hugo Koblet
I see you don't actually care if Rogla or Pogi decided and announced it first. Now you see the whole reason this thread exist is to determine exactly that. But OK. Still i must say reading in between the lines i can't shake off the feeling that you do actually claim Pogi decided and announced it first and that it's important to you, likely as a fanboy, to stick to that.
As for quantity vs quality of decision and announcement. What more do you expect from Rogla then? Beating Jonas at Giro, Pogi at Tour and Remco at Worlds RR. What else should one do? For me that is more then enough. To ride Vuelta too?
I see you don't actually care if Rogla or Pogi decided and announced it first. Now you see the whole reason this thread exist is to determine exactly that. But OK. Still i must say reading in between the lines i can't shake off the feeling that you do actually claim Pogi decided and announced it first and that it's important to you, likely as a fanboy, to stick to that.
As for quantity vs quality of decision and announcement. What more do you expect from Rogla then? Beating Jonas at Giro, Pogi at Tour and Remco at Worlds RR. What else should one do? For me that is more then enough. To ride Vuelta too?
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Anyway, anybody claiming Pogi decided and announced it yet, this is from today:
www.cyclingnews.com
Meanwhile i am not reading news in regards to Rogla is still deciding, or something like that. The decision and the announcement was already made and that is that. And lets not forget Rogla had 2 votes at the time he announced it, that tells something about fanboys too.
'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start
Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025
www.cyclingnews.com
Meanwhile i am not reading news in regards to Rogla is still deciding, or something like that. The decision and the announcement was already made and that is that. And lets not forget Rogla had 2 votes at the time he announced it, that tells something about fanboys too.
Only GT's then. That wasn't the intention with the thread. Pogi was first out, he won. Again.Anyway, anybody claiming Pogi decided and announced it yet, this is from today:
'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start
Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025
Meanwhile i am not reading news in regards to Rogla is still deciding, or something like that. The decision and the announcement was already made and that is that. And lets not forget Rogla had 2 votes at the time he announced it, that tells something about fanboys too.
You quite literally quoted an article from today, on where it says Pogi is still deciding and after went on claiming Pogi already won. Let me guess, you voted for Pogi? That explains it.
You really don't get it, do you? That's actually impressive.
Just create a new poll to let people decide who won /s
Anyway, anybody claiming Pogi decided and announced it yet, this is from today:
'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start
Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025
Meanwhile i am not reading news in regards to Rogla is still deciding, or something like that. The decision and the announcement was already made and that is that. And lets not forget Rogla had 2 votes at the time he announced it, that tells something about fanboys too.
Rogla already said that he would race where Tadej doesn't. He also said he would speak to Tadej. We don't know Tadej's schedule but Rogla has his phone number so he's an insider who knows well in advance Tadej will skip the Giro. Checkmate.
If Pogacar even remotely considered going to the Giro, he wouldn't confirm Dauphiné neither would do such a full spring.
What UAE are telling us is smoke in the eyes. I can't believe there are people who actually believe that the decision isn't made.
As for Roglic' schedule , if he does more than 4 races next year, he didn't announce his schedule yet. Just part of it.
You guys are just so greedy. Rogla won this one fair and square and it pains you.
Nah, better to let Pogi, Jonas and Remco to fight it off on who comes in second, there could be a poll for that.
OK, but it looks like Jonas didn't answer and hence Vuelta is still up in the air, decision and announcement missing. Here we could make a poll on who will announce the decision about Vuelta first. That is second as Rogla already announced it.
It's UAE saying the decision in between Giro and Vuelta hasn't been made yet, to a point they could announce it. So it's not just about Giro and even Giro was not officially ruled out, Pogi turning up at Giro is still a possibility. Beyond that no announcement about Vuelta yet. As for Rogla, he is 35 and Giro-Tour-Worlds is plenty. I hope some of you aren't seriously suggesting he should do Vuelta too.
It's officially ruled out by his schedule. As I asked you few days ago, do you have reason to believe that Pogacar may change his schedule?
As for Roglic, he didn't announce the Wolds. So if he does it, it will be a fact that he didn't announce his schedule as you try to claim.
@YavorD
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'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start
Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025
www.cyclingnews.com
He won't do the Giro. And it's not only about GT's@YavorD
'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start
Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025
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