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[JPM London]

Sorry, which day do you expect the hog to be grounded?

Very good!!!! Still chuckling...

 

[Anonymous]

and my prediction of ground hog day is correct.............

let's just keep saying it's coming...........eventually you will be right............ or people will just forget.................roflmao

The question is, if the revelations of FLandis are true, will you come here and take your medicine? You don't strike me as a coward, so I am guessing you will. Just know that there are many here who look forward to saying "I told you so." Maybe it will never happen?

 

[Anonymous]

PGA golfers are all d-bags...At any given opportunity they sing their love for Ronald Reagan and Jesus, which gets them weekly corporate outing appearance fees of 100k and they don't even need to practice.. They all tell stupid false stories about their humble beginnings walking from their trailer park to the country club where they caddied and where they found their love for the game of golf..bwahahaaaaaa The only ones that do well are just bored and decide to actually apply themselves a little.

steve martin "I was born a poor black child"

Over generalize much?

Bad post.

 

[Wheels Go Round and Round]

The question is, if the revelations of FLandis are true, will you come here and take your medicine? You don't strike me as a coward, so I am guessing you will. Just know that there are many here who look forward to saying "I told you so." Maybe it will never happen?

not quite sure where you are going with this as I have said before they ARE ALL DOPERS...................so what big revelation will be revealed that I don't already know?

 

[Anonymous]

not quite sure where you are going with this as I have said before they ARE ALL DOPERS...................so what big revelation will be revealed that I don't already know?

That Big Tex will actually get some road rash from this. It sounds like you believe he will go unscathed, and I don't think that is going to be the case. Not really of the belief he will serve prison time, but do think all of his career will take on the tarnish it deserves.

 

[Wheels Go Round and Round]

That Big Tex will actually get some road rash from this. It sounds like you believe he will go unscathed, and I don't think that is going to be the case. Not really of the belief he will serve prison time, but do think all of his career will take on the tarnish it deserves.

he won't spend a day in jail.............

as for tarnish........hell....... all top athletes are tarnished in my book, then again Olympic curlers are probably clean except for alochol

 

[kurtinsc]

I don't know if I buy that comparison Kurtinsc. Recall that after Kobe's troubles some idiots were saying it gave him "street cred". The fan base, and buying clientele of the NBA is also different than golf.

As I said, I don't think he'll fade into oblivion, but I just don't see his buying power for sponsorship get anywhere near what it was.

While NBA fans may be a different bunch from golf fans... just look at the timeline.

When the allegations came out, McDonalds, Nintendo, Upper Deck, Spalding, Russell Sports and Coca Cola all dropped him. Nike was pretty much the only one who kept him on.

Since then, Coca Cola has signed him back, he's gotten Nubea deals and severl video game endorsements. He makes 16 million a year from endorsements... he makes 16 million a year from endorsements and according to Forbes is the second highest paid athelete in overall compensation (Can you guess who's #1... I'll give you the initials... TW)

Woods actually lost less endorsement wise then Bryant did. He kept his Tag Heuer, Nike, and EA deals. He even turned down a 75 million dollar endorsement deal from bookmaker Paddy Power 3 months after the allegations.

He's still driving ratings for golf... and as long as that happens he'll still be making huge endorsement money.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

There are 2 big differences between the marketability of Lance v Tiger.

Tigers 'indiscretions' have little bearing on his ability to play the game.
But Lances 'indiscretions' do, PED use and more damaging is the hiding a positive test - this damages his athletic achievements, where with Tiger it is just his image/marketability that is damaged.

Also Tiger is only 34 - and it is possible he could still be competitive in 15-20 years time. Lance is already past his best and his career will be likely over this or next year - there is little that entices sponsors to continue to invest in him.

 

[redtreviso]

Over generalize much?

Bad post.

For so few it is not true that "ALL" is perfectly descriptive..

Like "all" Republicans are racists.

""I'll believe that Republicans are serious about protecting heterosexual marriage on the day that you can't find half of them prowling the gay bars of DC every night (and you don't even want to know what the other half are into).""

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Mission-Accomplished-The-by-David-Michael-Gree-100625-58.html

 

[kurtinsc]

There are 2 big differences between the marketability of Lance v Tiger.

Tigers 'indiscretions' have little bearing on his ability to play the game.
But Lances 'indiscretions' do, PED use and more damaging is the hiding a positive test - this damages his athletic achievements, where with Tiger it is just his image/marketability that is damaged.

Also Tiger is only 34 - and it is possible he could still be competitive in 15-20 years time. Lance is already past his best and his career will be likely over this or next year - there is little that entices sponsors to continue to invest in him.

Tiger isn't a great comparison with Lance.

But saying Tiger is going to be permanently damaged from his issues is incorrect as well. That doesn't mean Lance won't be damaged in terms of endorsements with the PR hit that would happen if this goes south on him... he's not at all in the same situation as Tiger. You don't need to say Tiger is going to suffer to try to prove that Lance will... the two are really not related.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Tiger isn't a great comparison with Lance.

But saying Tiger is going to be permanently damaged from his issues is incorrect as well. That doesn't mean Lance won't be damaged in terms of endorsements with the PR hit that would happen if this goes south on him... he's not at all in the same situation as Tiger. You don't need to say Tiger is going to suffer to try to prove that Lance will... the two are really not related.

Thanks for the insight - perhaps I should have written ......

There are 2 big differences between the marketability of Lance v Tiger.

as the very first sentence so it would not have caused you any confusion...

 

[nevada]

The mainly male fanbase can understand and accept a few indiscretions with a waitress , mainlining blood & PED's is somewhat less acceptable.

The federal investigation will show Lance hung out at dancing bars and nothing else.

 

[Rip:30]

The mainly male fanbase can understand and accept a few indiscretions with a waitress , mainlining blood & PED's is somewhat less acceptable.

The federal investigation will show Lance hung out at dancing bars and nothing else.

My friend got a BJ from a prostitute that Lance hired.

True story.

 

[buckwheat]

My friend got a BJ from a prostitute that Lance hired.

True story.

Damn, the hog is multi talented.

 

[Rip:30]

Haha.

Female. Just to clarify. He had a little group of them that night apparently.

 

[Wallace]

My friend got a BJ from a prostitute that Lance hired.

True story.

Bicycling Jersey?

 

[bobs nob]

PGA golfers are all d-bags...At any given opportunity they sing their love for Ronald Reagan and Jesus, which gets them weekly corporate outing appearance fees of 100k and they don't even need to practice.. They all tell stupid false stories about their humble beginnings walking from their trailer park to the country club where they caddied and where they found their love for the game of golf..bwahahaaaaaa The only ones that do well are just bored and decide to actually apply themselves a little.

steve martin "I was born a poor black child"

I haven't seen this level of prejudice and bigotry with such a straight face in a very long time.

 

[bobs nob]

Tiger's other issue is that while he's still good, he's probably starting on the downside of his career with many young golfers now coming up. He may win another major, but I'd venture to guess he'll slowly fade away. Not to obscurity, but in winnings, ratings, everything. As his reputation crumbled, his mainstream appeal crumbled as well. His name will sell much less product in the sport of golf already, but also to mainstream Nike like people. He's still getting mentioned in the news, but only because people know who he is. Even Mike Tyson's last several fights got him mentioned, regardless of how horrible he fought.

Having that shot of Phil Mickelson embracing his family after winning the Masters was priceless for golf.

Most of this is pretty good. His reputation is much more battered than the media's conventional wisdom holds. And Phil suddenly looks much more relatable. I think Tiger was almost back on form in the US Open and he isn't done winning Majors, which is what his golfing is all about. In that he has much similarity to Lance, targeting a very limited calendar. I think your comments about fading like Tyson are overstated. I watch tournaments that he is in (and NOT others) but I used to root for him, now I root against him. (Another similarity between Tiger and Lance for me personally)

Tiger's downside is not going to be like Tyson's and golfers can play at a high level well into their 40's. I disagree with you there.

I think the accusations about the Canadian doctor and the hgh could cause as much damage as the divorce.

The divorce is reported to cost something $350Million. He deserves it after the humiliation he put his wife and family through.

 

[Anonymous]

For so few it is not true that "ALL" is perfectly descriptive..

Like "all" Republicans are racists.

""I'll believe that Republicans are serious about protecting heterosexual marriage on the day that you can't find half of them prowling the gay bars of DC every night (and you don't even want to know what the other half are into).""

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Mission-Accomplished-The-by-David-Michael-Gree-100625-58.html

Oh how very open-minded and tolerant of you. Your clarificaton only exposes you further.

It takes all kinds, I suppose.

 

[buckwheat]

Most of this is pretty good. His reputation is much more battered than the media's conventional wisdom holds. And Phil suddenly looks much more relatable. I think Tiger was almost back on form in the US Open and he isn't done winning Majors, which is what his golfing is all about. In that he has much similarity to Lance, targeting a very limited calendar. I think your comments about fading like Tyson are overstated. I watch tournaments that he is in (and NOT others) but I used to root for him, now I root against him. (Another similarity between Tiger and Lance for me personally)

Tiger's downside is not going to be like Tyson's and golfers can play at a high level well into their 40's. I disagree with you there.

I think the accusations about the Canadian doctor and the hgh could cause as much damage as the divorce.

The divorce is reported to cost something $350Million. He deserves it after the humiliation he put his wife and family through.

He'll win 22 or 23 majors total, but as to being any kind of force outside of golf, he's completely done, and this is coming from a person (me) who can watch these clowns on the tube for hours on end.

I don't like Armstrong at all, but he's light years more intelligent and personable than Tiger.

About the best thing that could possibly be said of Woods is that he is funny in the sense a frat boy is funny. I believe his favorite movie is Caddyshack, and when he was at Bethpage last year he was trying to quiet the rowdy crowd when the other players were hitting, and was covering his mouth and laughing at the $hit the drunks were saying in gallery.

Before the scandal I thought he was one dimensional. Obviously I was wrong but his other dimension is nothing to brag about. Picking up skeezers kind of gets old and sad. It becomes tragic when you bring a wife and kids into it.

The guy may even win 10 more majors, but that only emphasizes what a pathetic figure he is. He's really not any different from a crack ***** (ho) or junkie.

 

[Lances_Closet]

My friend got a BJ from a prostitute that Lance hired.

True story.

I've heard similar stories.

Speaking of blow.

There is a story on the internet about Lance doing blow in the clubs of Austin. He's rec drug use is well known on the club circuit.

Yes I have a link.

 

[buckwheat]

Oh how very open-minded and tolerant of you. Your clarificaton only exposes you further.

It takes all kinds, I suppose.

That link would be very educational for you.

 

[buckwheat]

I haven't seen this level of prejudice and bigotry with such a straight face in a very long time.

Just about the only liberal amongst PGA pros is Paul Goydos who was a substitute teacher.

PGA members by and large are a very conservative group and aren't shy about being fans of people like rushbo.

 

[buckwheat]

I've heard similar stories.

Speaking of blow.

There is a story on the internet about Lance doing blow in the clubs of Austin. He's rec drug use is well known on the club circuit.

Yes I have a link.

That's not surprising at all. Everyone knows that drugs of all kinds have played a very important role in his life. His survival, his job, and now his recreation. This should not be a shock to anyone.

Please post the link.

 

[goober]

I've heard similar stories.

Speaking of blow.

There is a story on the internet about Lance doing blow in the clubs of Austin. He's rec drug use is well known on the club circuit.

Yes I have a link.

What kind of link do you have?