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karlboss

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The way I see it the favourites are
Froome, Contador *****
Rodriguez****
Porte, Quintana, Valverde ***
TJVG, Evans, JVDB, Martin, Spilak**


Honestly i'd pretty much put my house on someone from the top 6 taking it. The others are there to get to 10 names. Is there someone I've missed? Is there a periero in the field?

Would love to see spilak and Martin do well, i think martin will go top 5, but i don't think he has the same chance at winning as say valverde if that makes sense.
 
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Jason_Mercier

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Mmmm... Martin and Spilak. Have ever done something in a Grand Tour?

And where are the french climbers?
Even others like Talansky, Kwiatkowski, De Gendt or Mollema...

These names are so much better than Martin and Spilak for a three weeks race.
There's a thing called "recovery" and other known as "endurance" and Martin and Spilak dont have neither of those capacities.

IMO :D
 
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Ruby United said:
I think it will be a battle between A.C. and Froome, with Froome coming out on top, partly because of the Time Trials.
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LaFlorecita said:
I voted Alberto and now I'm just gonna hope I didn't jinx it
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Yeah, I have to think it is between Froome and AC. I think everybody else is a dark horse long shot. Of course, somebody COULD catch a few lucky breaks, you know how that goes.

LaFlo - Alberto loves his fans - how could you jinx him! Nah, think positive! Put those beautiful brown eyes front and center in your mind - aum!

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karlboss

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Jason_Mercier said:
Mmmm... Martin and Spilak. Have ever done something in a Grand Tour?

And where are the french climbers?
Even others like Talansky, Kwiatkowski, De Gendt or Mollema...

These names are so much better than Martin and Spilak for a three weeks race.
There's a thing called "recovery" and other known as "endurance" and Martin and Spilak dont have neither of those capacities.

IMO :D
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You rubbish Martin and Spilak as unproven over 3 weeks and put in Kwiatowski as an option, bold ;)
Those last 2 have been in form I must admit I'm just hoping. Martin especially I think could do well enough on one stage from a break to make up for a consistent not quite good enough.
Rolland and Pinot will almost certainly be top 10, but both have been relatively quiet this year. Mollema could push the top 10, but i really wouldn't think so. De Gendt has shown nothing this year, even on Giro form from last year will be lucky to make the top 15. Talansky, will lose far too much in the mountains and I think will be working for Martin, as will Spilak for Rodriguez, but I like him more than Talansky. :D
 
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maxmartin

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Jason_Mercier said:
Mmmm... Martin and Spilak. Have ever done something in a Grand Tour?

And where are the french climbers?
Even others like Talansky, Kwiatkowski, De Gendt or Mollema...

These names are so much better than Martin and Spilak for a three weeks race.
There's a thing called "recovery" and other known as "endurance" and Martin and Spilak dont have neither of those capacities.

IMO :D
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agree, there are much better GT riders than martin and spilak
 
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The Hitch

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agree, there are much better GT riders than martin and spilak
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Spillak is probably there as a leadout man for purito, either the 3000-1000 role, or the 1000-500 depending on Moreno, but don't underestimate how things change. Look who the favorite for the race is and who the defending champ is. just a few Years ago if you had suggested either for a top 10,.the mods would have contacted your local authorities and advised that you get wheeled away to some mental hospital. Tommy voeckler even when he turned 30 would have considered it a success to get the combativity award for a day. Now he sitting in a war room dividing up stagewins with Rolland. Your own beloved Nibali is twice the force he was before. Look at the top 10s of classics even the podiums and compare them even to 2011 or 2009. Things change. Spillak was a good rider before. This season he had been amazing. Don't be surprised if he is a far better rider at the tour than what you remebered him as
 
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movingtarget

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Pentacycle said:
When you don't race Suisse or Dauphiné prior to the Tour, it's clear that you want to be relatively fresh after the TdF, to aim for the Vuelta GC. I too don't think it's very sensible to let a 23yo race the Vuelta right after his TdF debut, but if there's one who has the talent to handle that kind of strain, it's Quintana.
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I don't think it's a good idea to race him in both GTs. If he was going to be that valuable to Valverde in the Tour, he should have raced before the Tour and missed the Vuelta. The team will monitor how he recovers after the Tour.
 
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karlboss

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Ferminal said:
Zubeldia and Klöden will finish ahead of Martin and Spilak.
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I'll tip martin to finish ahead of both, and take an avatar of your choosing if either finish ahead of him.
 
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richard_91

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I'm really interested in seeing how Purito will fare with no bonus seconds and whether it will change his gameplan at all even if its just attacking 500m earlier it would set everything of sooner and change stuff up
 
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Pentacycle

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I'm really interested in seeing how Purito will fare with no bonus seconds and whether it will change his gameplan at all even if its just attacking 500m earlier it would set everything of sooner and change stuff up
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Purito won't change his tactic, he'll try to do what he does best and only attack within the last 1.5 kms. He's just there for stage wins as he knows he can't take the overall.
 
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Ferminal

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Of course he can, he's the best or equal best climber in the race. If things get chaotic he can earn some good time. Though the most he can probably earn attacking in the final 2000m each MTF is 30-45 seconds in total. Expect him to go long on Ventoux if he is more than 2'30" behind after the first ITT.
 
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movingtarget said:
I don't think it's a good idea to race him in both GTs. If he was going to be that valuable to Valverde in the Tour, he should have raced before the Tour and missed the Vuelta. The team will monitor how he recovers after the Tour.
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He won't, most probably - http://laopinion.com.co/demo/demo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=417418&Itemid=41

The reason he is not racing before the Tour is that he did both Pais Vasco and the Ardennes when he was originally only supposed to do one or the other. Unzue is just being ultra-careful with him. It was the same before the Vuelta last year - he only rode San Sebastian as prep (and then lost loads of time in the first week).
 
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Jason_Mercier

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karlboss said:
You rubbish Martin and Spilak as unproven over 3 weeks and put in Kwiatowski as an option, bold.
Those last 2 have been in form I must admit I'm just hoping. Martin especially I think could do well enough on one stage from a break to make up for a consistent not quite good enough.
Rolland and Pinot will almost certainly be top 10, but both have been relatively quiet this year. Mollema could push the top 10, but i really wouldn't think so. De Gendt has shown nothing this year, even on Giro form from last year will be lucky to make the top 15. Talansky, will lose far too much in the mountains and I think will be working for Martin, as will Spilak for Rodriguez, but I like him more than Talansky. :D
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Talansky working for Martin? :D:D

Martin will lose more than 3' with the american in the TT's. And where can Martin recover this time? Both are equal climbers.

This is the best spring season of Rolland ever. In the Tour he's always in another level.
Pinot hasnt found yet the ideal conditions for shine. But this begin of season is even better than the past.

Kwiatkowski has much more potential than these two. And has also the endurance.

But if you say Dan Martin are greater than those because of his breakway in Port Ainé where he lost 1' in three kilometers with Quintana its OK.


:p
 
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Pentacycle

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Jason_Mercier said:
Talansky working for Martin? :D:D

Martin will lose more than 3' with the american in the TT's. And where can Martin recover this time? Both are equal climbers.
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Talansky has two main disadvantages over Martin; 1 - He still has a lot to prove as a climber, opposed to Martin, who's won a Vuelta MTF, and 2 - He's making his TdF debut while Martin will have his second attempt in that race.
 
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