Tour de France Who will win the 2023 Tour De France GC? Rest Day Poll 2

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm actually saying that whereas it doesn't affect Vingegaard, it does affect the taller riders on the team because there's new rules for them and somehow Jumbo haven't seemed to be able to make them work. Vingegaard in the Dauphiné is not an example, he did the best TT he's ever done in a race that's not the Tour. He just exploded a bit towards the end.

Roglic, when it mattered, didn't seem to suffer too much from a bad setup as even on the flatter part of the final TT he was already the fastest. He's also probably not changed much on his position, as he's also not very tall.

Ah yes. Roglic didn't care about those initial 55km of flat TT and just yolo'd his way to the finish. Because in the 10km flat section in the last TT, with an insane 8km 11% climb up ahead, other riders didn't change their pacing plan at all and went all out on the flat part. So let's take those 10km as the benchmark. Why didn't i think of that sooner.

And i wasn't just talking about new position on the bike (the new rules should actually favor taller riders compared to before) but new equipment etc. Unless i'm mistaking, TJV is riding a different TT bike now.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

4?!?

16, 18, 19 and 21 = 4 stages not worth watching. Poor for a final week.

 

[theyoungest]

Ah yes. Roglic didn't care about those initial 55km of flat TT and just yolo'd his way to the finish. Because in the 10km flat section in the last TT, with an insane 8km 11% climb up ahead, other riders didn't change their pacing plan at all and went all out on the flat part. So let's take those 10km as the benchmark. Why didn't i think of that sooner.

Maybe think a bit on the logic of this comment. Because there is none. If you're holding back aerodynamics become more important, not less. So yes, those 10 flat kilometers definitely tell you something.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Maybe think a bit on the logic of this comment. Because there is none. If you're holding back aerodynamics become more important, not less. So yes, those 10 flat kilometers definitely tell you something.

Thanks for the laughs.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I hate having to pick between Vingo and Pogi because I like them both and (barring disaster) I know one of them has to win it. So I'll just go with other/Vino in order to spare myself the emotional turmoil of having to choose.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Ah yes. Roglic didn't care about those initial 55km of flat TT and just yolo'd his way to the finish. Because in the 10km flat section in the last TT, with an insane 8km 11% climb up ahead, other riders didn't change their pacing plan at all and went all out on the flat part. So let's take those 10km as the benchmark. Why didn't i think of that sooner.

And i wasn't just talking about new position on the bike (the new rules should actually favor taller riders compared to before) but new equipment etc. Unless i'm mistaking, TJV is riding a different TT bike now.

I agree there is enough of a trend that there is likely to be some shared factor or factors that are causes inferior performances to expectation from the TJV squad. In addition to equipment and position, it could also be coaching, approach, training, focus, etc. But I agree that it is likely that Vingegaard and Wout will not do as well in the ITT as they did last year based on the team’s performances elsewhere.

 

[Rob5091]

I hope Pogacar can adapt to the TT position with his wrist. It can hurt a lot if he can't adapt well.

Dan Martin on Twitter
"The irony that with the big 2 being so equally matched on the climbs,
@LeTour
could be decided by the fact Pogacar spent 5 weeks only training on his TT bike due to his wrist fracture."
Pogacar did the Slovienian TT NC but that was only 15.7 km and half uphill.

 

[KZD]

Realistically, I have to favour Vingegård a bit more after what we saw in the last two mountain stage however my dream scenario would be Pogačar taking yellow tomorrow, losing it on the next stage after being dropped on Col de la Loze and then recovering it with a thermonuclear performance on stage 20.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

i could not have been more wrong. But how am I supposed to know Vingegaard does a TT 4.4 seconds per KM quicker than Pogi.

 

[Peyroteo94]

At least, I bet on the right horse.

 

[meat puppet]

Soz, got the day of Pog 's inadequate base collapse wrong. But given his odd form trajectory, this was not too difficult to call.