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Bala Verde

Bala Verde

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It would be nice to be part of it in a positive way, because there aren’t a lot of Tour winners who you can believe in,” Wiggins told L’Équipe. “For the first time last year, you had a Tour winner who everyone could believe in [Evans – ed]. He is a fantastic ambassador for the sport, he works hard, he didn’t win by showing off, but with great determination. So to be able to follow on from somebody like him would be nice, rather than doing it after somebody had a positive test hanging over his head for a year or two.”
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Cyclingnews via equipe
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-wants-to-be-a-credible-tour-de-france-winner
 
Don't be late Pedro

Don't be late Pedro

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Digger said:
He's basically saying you are only damaging the sport if you get caught. Dope but don't get caught. Just like Evans.
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You understood that from his quote(s)? Are you really that deluded or just that stupid?
 
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Don't be late Pedro said:
You understood that from his quote(s)? Are you really that deluded or just that stupid?
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Well are you that deluded or stupid to think Evans is clean? Wiggins knows full well.
 
roundabout

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Ripper said:
Yes, and now he is going to everyone's favourite training camp - Tenerife. That never arouses suspicion. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, but to be honest over here in Europe there aren't that many places with high altitude and good weather.
 
Ripper

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gooner said:
Come on man.

Its laughable to say Di Luca is not controversial. ...... Di Luca is the biggest hypocrite of them all. Wiggins is right about him. He is a w*****.
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Um, a fair number of people were quite disgusted with Di Luca. Then he got popped without too much trouble (no multi year appeals, etc). So what is controversial about him per se? He doped, some people think he is scum, he got popped. There is some controversy about the reduction in his suspension, but that's the system my man, Di Luca is just using it to his advantage. What is hypocritical about saying you jumped through some hoops because you miss cycling (which by the way is your job)? There might be little to respect or like about Di Luca, but that in particular is does not make him a hypocrite.

Actually, a number of folks get less negative press in the Clinic once they have been popped and served their 'time'. I used to be pretty negative about Valverde and Contador for example. This is because it was quite upsetting to my values that they obviously doped, had even been tagged for it, and were still riding. Now - they have done (or ar doing) their time, so they stop getting slagged.

Now Bradley. Gee, why would we be suspicious? Goes from placing in the triple digits of a GT to a contender. Weight loss without impact on power, TT or recovery. Tenerife training camps. Team Sky seems to ride like USPS. Olympic year in the UK. I would say that folks who have watched cycling for a long time have very good reason to be suspicious. Does that make us haters of cycling? Seriously? In that case, I must love cancer too :rolleyes:

Gooner, I think you need to accept that those foks who are suspicious of Wiggins have every right to be and that is their opinion, just like yours is that he is clean. Either way, time will tell
 
goggalor

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roundabout said:
Yeah, but to be honest over here in Europe there aren't that many places with high altitude and good weather.
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He could train in Sierra Nevada like his mate Cadel. :p
 
Ripper

Ripper

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roundabout said:
Yeah, but to be honest over here in Europe there aren't that many places with high altitude and good weather.
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Really? Do you know where Tenerife is?
 
roundabout

roundabout

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Ripper said:
Really? Do you know where Tenerife is?
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Close to Marocco. Your point being?

I do know that it can snow at 1000 meters in the Alps in August and some of the big passes are only now starting to get cleared of snow.
 
Ripper

Ripper

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roundabout said:
Close to Marocco. Your point being?

I do know that it can snow at 1000 meters in the Alps in August and some of the big passes are only now starting to get cleared of snow.
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Correct, it is off the coast of Morocco. It is not like it is right next to the UK. My point is that it if you can go to Tenerife, you can go to a number of spots. But Tenerife training camps seem to be a bit of a doping holy land. Does not a certain infamous training 'advisor' frequent that little island?
 
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roundabout said:
Aside from the doping doctors it would still be one of the better places to train in May.
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True, but if I were a cyclist, I might pick somewhere with a less seedy reputation. That is, of course, unless I was in Tenerife for that reason.
 
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Caruut said:
True, but if I were a cyclist, I might pick somewhere with a less seedy reputation. That is, of course, unless I was in Tenerife for that reason.
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It's a pretty good troll on us Clinic folk.
 
Bala Verde

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Zam posted this youtube of 2005 TdF stage 10, I think in the context of the postal train.

After Popovych gave it his all (minute 10), this illustrious group remained. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1_c8WHOnsY

Valverde, Mancebo, Armstrong, Rasmussen, Basso and Evans. (minute 11:30)

Team Fuentes v. Team Ferrari... (Vino, Landis, Heras, Ulrich had been shed/were about to get dropped from the group)?? Evans ultimately arrived at around 2m from winner Valverde in the company of landis, mazzoleni, Kloeden, kashechkin, ulrich, jacksche and 2 or 3 others

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stage 10

The top 10 in that tour

Rank Name Team Time
1 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel 86h 15' 02"
2 Ivan Basso (ITA) Team CSC +4' 40"
DSQ Jan Ullrich (GER) T-Mobile +6' 21"
3 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne +9' 59"
4 Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) T-Mobile +11' 01"
5 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner +11' 21"
6 Michael Rasmussen (DEN) Rabobank +11' 33"
7 Cadel Evans (AUS) Davitamon-Lotto +11' 55"
8 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak +12' 44"
9 Óscar Pereiro (ESP) Phonak +16' 04"
10 Christophe Moreau (FRA) Crédit Agricole +16' 26"
 
badboygolf16v

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Love the tone of the piece on the L'Equipe interview with Wiggo: 'remarkable metamorphosis'; 'mutation'; 'transformation'...
 
Bala Verde

Bala Verde

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Caruut said:
True, but if I were a cyclist, I might pick somewhere with a less seedy reputation. That is, of course, unless I was in Tenerife for that reason.
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Tenerife, isn't that where ob/gyn Fuentes administers ped smears?

Sorry couldn't resist. :p
 
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