Why is Lance Armstrong so Hated?

[thehog]

...this thread is careening off course...we need a new thread...something like Lance's fashion choices as an affront to basic human decency....this is no laughing matter the fate of humanity hangs on stuff like this...and this should be dealt with like right now...

Cheers

blutto

The only thing careering off course is the man himself. Or I should say he's behaving like a wild dog cornered game hunters.

 

[blutto]

The only thing careering off course is the man himself. Or I should say he's behaving like a wild dog cornered game hunters.

...considering that this a supposed to be a simple battle between good and evil and the fact game hunters aren't exactly paragons of virtue or courage maybe that is not the most apt analogy...or maybe it is?...

Cheers

blutto

 

[noddy69]

http://www.bicycling.com/news/pro-cycling/armstrong-hunts-down-rider

http://velonews.competitor.com/2008/11/news/road/armstrong-responds-to-simeoni_84947

cause he is a lying low life....defending his drug doctor mate...low life.

 

[lafleche]

That was to cover th injection marks. White socks tended to leave blood spots from the injection point. After a while you have to go to the vain in your ankle as your arm gets very tender and it's too easily sighted.

I'm all for a Lance feeding frenzy, but this is too laughable to even be considered a theory. Ask a doctor, nurse, or vet yourself. Anyways, GAME ON.

 

[thehog]

I'm all for a Lance feeding frenzy, but this is too laughable to even be considered a theory. Ask a doctor, nurse, or vet yourself. Anyways, GAME ON.

You know nothing.

Story has it that the USPS boys had to change the transfusion points to the vein above the lower ankle. There arms were looking a little scary with the injection points from a 9 month long season of usage. The skin on the arm is also a little too tender for prolonged transfusing.

None the less when you inject into the lower leg you often get blood spots from the injection point and these pierce through white socks. So on the day before key mountain stages the guys would have to change to black socks to avoid the spots. You’ll also note the adoption of the longer ankle sock to cover the tracks.

 

[silverrocket]

Hands off Bono! The One charity has 4 stars from Charity Navigator!

"According to the Post the nonprofit took in $14,993,873 in public donations in 2008, the latest year for which tax records are available. Of that, $184,732 was distributed to three charities, according to the IRS filing. More than $8 million was spent on executive and employee salaries."

Bono raises money from others, doesn't really believe in giving his own, and by fronting a band known for ostentatious, over the top tours that spend and make obscene amounts of money Bono is pretty hypocritical with his "fight poverty" campaigning. The honest and sincere Bono from the early 1980's is long since dead. Of course, an honest and sincere Lance Armstrong never existed.

 

[silverrocket]

The only thing careering off course is the man himself. Or I should say he's behaving like a wild dog cornered game hunters.

I'm a wildlife biologist and can tell you that no wild dog ever behaves as stupidly and irrationally as Lance Armstrong has since he was charged by the USADA.

 

[Jeremiah]

This thread is a total fail, the OP could do a search and while a way 100s of hours reading all the various reasons. Any other similar rehashing would get short shrift but given the topic people seem delighted to give a gazillion reasons. But people keep away from the real biggie, perhaps it's just too appalling to mention but for me it's the black socks, they're an affront to the sport and basic human decency.

Styles change. Do you want the NBA to go back to short shorts like Dollar Bill Bradley wore?

Old school cycling styles are ghey as fcuk.

 

[Dr.Sahl]

Before you guys accuse me, Im not a fan of lance armstrong, never was.
I am pretty new to cycling, only started watching in 2009. However after being in the forum for the past few years. I have realised that 99% of the posters hate lance armstrong greatly. Is it because of the accusations against him of doping?? Or is it people don't like his personality??
Because other accused dopers are not hated as much around here such as Ricco, Rasmussen, Vino.

I think it depends on alot, but I will tell you why I personaly dislike Lance (I don't hate him)

Its his personality and the way he keeps proclaiming himself as the one true and pure cyclist and then he is super arrogant.. I've yet to hear him comment or see a quote from him that I didnt dislike...

As for the accused of doping, well who is not accused in the eyes of men. nah I judge from personality

 

[Marlene]

I must say I don't hate the guy, dislike is a better description. I dislike him for:

* cheating
* lying
* commenting on Sastres' Tour Win as being the worst winner of the Tour ever
* coming back to the peloton making a mockery of other riders
* harrassing other riders
* being the ultimate omertaist
* commercialising his cancer survival

In retrospect, seeing him sprinting uphill, come on, guys like Bahamontes would be ashamed.

I second that!

 

[skippy]

Item #20 sums up my feelings about the current feeding frenzy although in skippi-cyclist blog i have offered a few links to threads since some points from previous years have surfaced thanks to those with issues .

 

[HL2037]

For me the thing that bothers me the most about LA is the way he has used the kind hearts of good people to make himself rich and powerful. People in very difficult painful situations, dealing with deadly disease in themselves or their loved ones. Or empathetic people who are not personally affected but want to help those who are nevertheless.

They have invested their hopes and feelings, money and time in Livestrong, believing that they were helping people in need and making the world a little bit better. When they find out what has been done in their names - Young riders forced by shady "doctors" to take drugs that will increase their risk of getting cancer like LA did - Money laundering - Threats and bribery and all sorts of mafioso-like behavior to cover up the doping - how will those good people react?

Disappointment, sadness, anger no doubt. After all they have been betrayed. And the next time someone asks them to contribute to a charity, they will be a little bit more cynical. And the world will have become a little bit colder.

 

[thehog]

For me the thing that bothers me the most about LA is the way he has used the kind hearts of good people to make himself rich and powerful. People in very difficult painful situations, dealing with deadly disease in themselves or their loved ones. Or empathetic people who are not personally affected but want to help those who are nevertheless.

They have invested their hopes and feelings, money and time in Livestrong, believing that they were helping people in need and making the world a little bit better. When they find out what has been done in their names - Young riders forced by shady "doctors" to take drugs that will increase their risk of getting cancer like LA did - Money laundering - Threats and bribery and all sorts of mafioso-like behavior to cover up the doping - how will those good people react?

Disappointment, sadness, anger no doubt. After all they have been betrayed. And the next time someone asks them to contribute to a charity, they will be a little bit more cynical. And the world will have become a little bit colder.

And now that he's been caught he's trying it from a new angle. Beat everyone up with a confession and say "there's ya confession, now let me race and earn money".

But it doesn't work that way. You got to sit it out like the rest of them.

Lance is common. He just doesn't want to admit that he is.

 

[Oldman]

And now that he's been caught he's trying it from a new angle. Beat everyone up with a confession and say "there's ya confession, now let me race and earn money".

But it doesn't work that way. You got to sit it out like the rest of them.

Lance is common. He just doesn't want to admit that he is.

As I said in another thread a normally knowledgable guy, also a cancer survivor, was arguing for Lance's redemption. He was eager to see him as "a preeminent master's racer". I explained to him that we both know two riders that, as teammates to Lance both pre and post Ferrari; could beat him in a TT. That they chose not to pursue a life of lies and deceit was the only reason they aren't household names in cycling fandom. That, and there were many more in the US and around the world that were as naturally talented in our miniature sport.
His avarice and resources at the behest of his sponsors/manipulators was uncommon. I dislike him for pretending otherwise and exploiting the weakness of people with life-threatening illness. As a competitor I didn't judge the methods for his "success" as many other equally greedy competitors were doing the same and it was not my professional career in jeopardy. As a human being I was raised to know what was cheating.

 

[erader]

because he would look you in the eye and lie to you, threaten to kick your *** and then get you fired from your job.

 

[AussieEdge]

For me the thing that bothers me the most about LA is the way he has used the kind hearts of good people to make himself rich and powerful. People in very difficult painful situations, dealing with deadly disease in themselves or their loved ones. Or empathetic people who are not personally affected but want to help those who are nevertheless.

They have invested their hopes and feelings, money and time in Livestrong, believing that they were helping people in need and making the world a little bit better. When they find out what has been done in their names - Young riders forced by shady "doctors" to take drugs that will increase their risk of getting cancer like LA did - Money laundering - Threats and bribery and all sorts of mafioso-like behavior to cover up the doping - how will those good people react?

Disappointment, sadness, anger no doubt. After all they have been betrayed. And the next time someone asks them to contribute to a charity, they will be a little bit more cynical. And the world will have become a little bit colder.

This this & this

If he stopped at the doping, then I would of tossed him aside like the others.

He created LieStrong to full his pockets & his myth - lied cheated and scammed those who donated & worse still used those who was most vulnerable for personal gain, those going through this horrible disease. Now he still doing it to recreate his image....I feel sick thinking about it!

I highly doubt that even 10 % of money raised goes to "charity" & I long for the day when that truth comes out...

As for never donating again, I have always donated to SA's Cancer Council and I always will as I know they've done more in one finger then Armstrong has ever has or ever will..

 

[Alpehue]

Not at hand at the minute - it was about fifty pages in length and detailed the tyrant of a boss Lance was. It detailed how miserly he was as regards pay. He expected Mike to be on call 24/7. How lance went back on his word of helping open up a shop, and how Lance turned into an even bigger d*** when Mike found the androtestosterone.

I remember reading it a while ago, but would be very interrested in reading it again if you manage to find it, it really shows his character, just a lieing scumbag.

 

[thehog]

"Luke's name is Armstrong and people know that name, and when he goes to school I don't want them to say, 'Oh yeah, your dad's the big fake, the doper.' That would just kill me," — in his second autobiography, "Every Second Counts," in 2003.

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"I came out of a life-threatening disease. I was on my death bed. You think I'm going to come back into a sport and say, 'OK, OK doctor, give me everything you've got, I just want to go fast?' No way! I would never do that," — public forum, Aspen, Colo., 2007.

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"How many times do I have to say it? ... Well, if it can't be any clearer than 'I've never taken drugs,'" — videotaped testimony in lawsuit, 2005.

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"I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles," — 2005 Tour de France victory speech, taking aim at "the cynics and the skeptics."

 

[mewmewmew13]

"Luke's name is Armstrong and people know that name, and when he goes to school I don't want them to say, 'Oh yeah, your dad's the big fake, the doper.' That would just kill me," — in his second autobiography, "Every Second Counts," in 2003.

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"I came out of a life-threatening disease. I was on my death bed. You think I'm going to come back into a sport and say, 'OK, OK doctor, give me everything you've got, I just want to go fast?' No way! I would never do that," — public forum, Aspen, Colo., 2007.

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"How many times do I have to say it? ... Well, if it can't be any clearer than 'I've never taken drugs,'" — videotaped testimony in lawsuit, 2005.

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"I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles," — 2005 Tour de France victory speech, taking aim at "the cynics and the skeptics."

He's white trash

 

[BillytheKid]

He's white trash

No, he tans too well.