Wigans goes there. Cadence!

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the big ring said:
Oh god.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ol...im-to-emulate-hero-in-Olympic-time-trial.html



ETA. Brad has a poor / inaccurate memory. It wasn't 55 minutes - it was 57:16

The cadence postulate Wiggo is providing is really quite funny. It sounds nice and scientific, but is really quite a fuzzy and unproven area. I am not saying it definitely does or does not make a difference (although extremely subtle changes in cadence likely would not make the difference being claimed). However, the way this is being presented suggests it is all just science and calculations that led to the conclusion - if it were that simple, cadence would not continue to be examined and debated as it still is.

But keep in mind it is not proof of anything ... ;)
 

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I had a gut feeling, based on 2 races, that something was not quite right.

Having trawled through the Clinic looking at all the "reasons" with supporting "evidence" for his "clean progression", or "explanations" for his improved performance, I have come to the conclusion that they stink.
 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ettes-holiday-Mallorca.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Dear Daily Mail, that's not tobacco...

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Nothing to see, just more marginal gains. Move along. Move along.
 
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i just realized Wiggo would have won the 2009 Tour if it weren't for the three dopers that beat him.
And he left three known dopers behind him on places 5 to 7.
chapeau!
 
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I see Wiggins is in hard training for his forthcoming night in the Yellow Rose.

What a F****** W*****!

So much for the abstinence and all the training. That is one serious professional!
 
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roundabout said:
I am not sure, but isn't it possible to test positive for *that*?

Not if you have a UCI dope-all-you-like arrangement.
Although here Wiggo is clearly violating UCI's "Just don't make it too obvious" maxime.
 
sniper said:
i just realized Wiggo would have won the 2009 Tour if it weren't for the three dopers that beat him.
And he left three known dopers behind him on places 5 to 7.
chapeau!

Andy Schleck has nothing real against him.

Im not mocking Wiggins there btw, Andy has never been implicated in a scandal and never tested positive.

To us in the clinic he is probably doping but the same can be said about a lot of people, and he has no more against him than Wiggins so wiggins cannot say he is a doper. (if he was spanish maybe).

And Lance Armstrong is according to Wiggins, is clean. To quote wiggins, how could he have gotten past all those tests.
 
BroDeal said:
All those marginal gains are so effective that even a pothead can be turned into a Tour winner. This is even a bigger joke than the Tour.
The best thing about this "marginal gains" talk is that Sky had pretty much turned their backs on it by the end of 2010, acknowledging they had acted like know-it-all brats and that perhaps they weren't that much smarter than everyone else.

But when the results come, suddenly it's all about the marginal gains again.
 
Victor Conte on the claims made by athletes these days about how they beat doping by training a lot (which brings to mind Wiggins and his constant " i train 5 hours a day" excuse)

...becoming faster and more powerful yet very lean, its very, without the use of performance enhancing drugs, just the stories you hear alone about training 5 6 hours a day, you just cant do that, all these drugs, steroids, epo, Growth hormones, they are recovery drugs. They are not.. thats why you can train like crazy and the next day you can train again and the next day you can train again, where it may take 2 3 days to recover from the type of workouts that they do.

Oh and before come the - he is jealous of wiggins, he wasnt actually talking about wiggins just in jealous, so it must be the "he once commited a crime and is therefore totaly incapable of telling the truth" option.
 
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Isn't it possible that the "joint" is just a hand-rolled cigarette? They're popular in Britain where packs are really expensive.

Regardless, I think smoking anything is pretty disrespectful for the sport, and makes you think, if you really are into gaining every marginal advantage, would you afford to smoke?
 
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Cancellator said:
Isn't it possible that the "joint" is just a hand-rolled cigarette? They're popular in Britain where packs are really expensive.

Regardless, I think smoking anything is pretty disrespectful for the sport, and makes you think, if you really are into gaining every marginal advantage, would you afford to smoke?

Who holds a cigarette like that? :rolleyes:
 

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Agreed - it's the way he is holding it that was the tell for me, although I could be wrong. Seems far more likely to me he would do rec drugs (cf Boonen + cocaine) vs being addicted to nicotine.